People were having those 6 hour arguments back then and before, too.
Recently there was a rumor spreading around my work that the earth was about to lose gravity for seven seconds and they should stay home to be safe.
I do oft wonder about the Dzhanibekov effect, and what the inertial effects (direction/strength/duration/curves/etc) would be like at each location on the spinning object, and if Earth’s Large Low-Velocity Provinces (LLVPs) or Large Low Shear Velocity Provinces are sufficient tributary oscillation to trigger a flip as some interpretations of the evidence suggest has happened to earth before (most recent suggestion I heard, this may have happened 700,000 years ago, iirc ~ or was it 700 million… I forget), … and in that moment, would there be locations that experience an effective loss of local gravity for seconds?
If such is going to happen (or just a magnetic flip, or a corona mass ejection, or a X100 flare, or a meteor bombardment, a rogue planet flyby perturbing orbits, or whatever other calamitous disruption to the pleasant habitability of Earth), to be safe, I think I’d rather have a spaceship to fly away instantly in, than stay home. (I guess humans should not have been industrially sabotaging and suppressing that arc of human made technological arc of innovation for a century or two.)
Bosses are dumb. Use that to score extra vacation. Don’t rock the fucking boat.
Uhh. No we are not. But we play dumb to also enjoy clearly fake things.
No, no. It’s absolutely true.
Scientists have known for years that the Earth’s gravitational field is remarkably stable, except when I fart.
At precisely 8:47 PM, I unleashed a fart of such extraordinary magnitude that NASA immediately detected a gravitational anomaly.
For exactly seven seconds, gravity simply gave up.
Cars floated. Birds were suddenly extremely confused. Somewhere in Ohio, a man watched his refrigerator slowly drift toward the ceiling.
NASA scrambled to identify the source.
“Where is this coming from?”
The technician checked the instruments.
“Sir… Georgia.”
A long silence followed.
“Dear God.”
At exactly seven seconds, gravity returned.
Scientists are now studying the event.
I have been asked not to fart again.
I have declined to comment.
If the result is I’m staying home for the day I’m happy to spread it along.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodybuilding.com#2008_days-in-a-week_debate
Or spending multiple days arguing whether there are 7 or 8 days in a week.
This is the best thing I’ve seen on the internet all week. A whole 8 days!
Idiots exist with or without knowledge. What the world needs to learn is to not put idiots into positions of power, and to remove the ones that found their way into power.
That’s absolutely right; the only problem is that those chief-idiot are so rich that they control most of what the Internet means to the vast majority of people.
That’s just how people are, unfortunately, as evidenced by the fact that platforms like Twitter or Reddit, for example, are still used by the masses.
Like I said: humanity needs to learn to not give such people power and to remove power from such people, too.
Why is kinda hard ito always do, idiots will follow idiots which will hate on different idiots or less idiots which makes hard for the less idiots to do anything
Sorry, idiots are popular with idiots so the idiots vote for the idiot and now the idiot is in charge.
Yes, because idiots allowed vile malicious non-idiots to gain control of their “news” media and stock markets, so OFC that went down hill fast.
Again: It’s all about preventing and removing idiots from power, not about trying to control the masses of idiots.
You control the up-stream. Fighting down-stream is just begging to be pissed on.
Sorry, power rests in the hands of the people.
Most of whom are idiots.
Sorry, power rests in the hands of the billionaires and oligarchs.
Ftfy
The people only have a facade
Well they’re also idiots.
You’re not wrong
To the oligarchs who have power they’re useful idiots.
They’d rather you blame the idiot orchestra than the conductor.
I’d rather blame all of us for leaving the trees.
It’s very clear that’s what happens. The concern now is what to do to break the system.
Thousands of articles of misinformation isn’t power. It’s a reminder on what to avoid and fact check.
Soon the arbiters of actual facts will be so broke they can’t afford to peddle them anymore. Only those with financial incentive to shape truth will be providing “facts.”
AI will likely be their greatest hammer.
Unlimited access to information, including finite amounts of knowledge, but also unlimited access to unlimited amounts of not-knowledge-at-all.
In the past there were gatekeepers. That sounds like a bad thing. In some ways it was. But, at least Walter Cronkite wasn’t allowed to go on a rant about the chemicals turning the frogs gay.
It seems bad, in the initial ineptitude of atrophied epistemological ability, and the clashes of world views of those who’d succumbed to naive realism.
Maybe we could have done with at least Walter Cronkite going on a rant about atrazine and other hormone disruptors, and the insane greedy sociopathy of the economic system that would incentivise deploying such, and not allow them not to deploy it, because that would be in breach of the bought statutory regulations “to protect the shareholders” that do not allow a corporation to not take any action that would maximise profits for shareholders. … Sure [/s]. That rule was put there to protect the shareholders. Why then is it having the effect of not just letting rotters get away with poisoning us for profit, but mandating that they have to!?
As was introduced to me, breaches of Duty of Care Law fall under 3 categories. Incompetence (not criminal, but you should lose your job), negligence (can be criminal), and intent (always criminal). So you can see why politicians try so hard to appear incompetent. Lets them get away with murder.
I’ve heard rotters genuinely espouse, like it’s a good idea, “because homosexuals have more expendable income”. :O
Or maybe it’d be better if we all learned to stop depending on some guy to tell us what’s going on (or to use as an icon of wrongthink), whether it’s Alex Jones, or Walter Cronkite, or whoever else, and we go look into things for ourselves, and stop atrophying our ability to be curious and look into things ourselves, and to do our own thinking.
It seems bad, in the initial ineptitude of atrophied epistemological ability, and the clashes of world views of those who’d succumbed to naive realism…, and it is, but it’s not so dire a prognosis ongoing. For a start, more and more of us are seeing more of the problem space, looking upstream to where it flows from, not just reacting, not just clamouring for a solution that they know not was already primed, nor sticking their heads back in the sand and parroting the party line, mocking any outside the groupthink’s in-group, to terrorise everybody straight, into the totalitarianised psyche that terrorises and totalitarianises everybody else all around, driving deeper into worsening atrocities seen ever more as necessary virtues. … Every utterance of better sense, dispels the madness, no matter how poorly taken in the moment[1], sows seeds of destroying the totalitarianism, or at the very least preventing it from growing malignant.
[1: oh how many times uttering nuance has one cast as part of the polar opposame groupthink. lol. “he said atrazine! he’s one of them! get him!” lol. ever worth checking if some totalitarian tartar got on my tunic. lol. none are perfectly immune. those who think they are, are the most deluded under the hypnotic psychotic spell. “Listen to those who seek the truth. Run from those who claim to have found it.” … or go up to them and either explain what they’re missing, or better yet, socratically query the truth they claim to have found, and let them find their own ignorance by it. I’ve still to get any worthy skill at that.]
This is something I realised growing. Information and actual knowledge are two separate things.
The former is withour filter and the latter is under scrutiny for proper verification. In the hands of layman, it can be impossible to properly determine.
The current LLM mania is just an extension of that ‘validation through evidence’ that has been on-going.
A TV with 100 channels of content and 1 billion channels of static.
Unlimited amounts of an audience for everyone 🙃
Exactly, the image is wrong. The internet does not provide unlimited access to knowledge, it provides (easily manipulable) access to information which may or may not be true.
It does provide nearly unlimited access to knowledge. But, the Internet user needs to bring their own ability distinguish knowledge from strongly held ignorant opinions.
If you’re an eye surgeon you can probably use the Internet to find out the newest techniques in eye surgery. You probably have enough knowledge of your own to spot fraudulent things, and to know where the real information can be found and how it can be vetted. OTOH, if you’re an eye surgeon, you might know nothing about farming, so you might not be able to separate the wheat from the chaff. If you’re not careful you might come away believing some crazy farming-related conspiracies.
Back when people were saying that unlimited access to knowledge was possible, they were also saying “don’t feed the trolls”.
When you engage with someone making a stupid statement or argument, you lend them your intellectual legitimacy. You implicitly acknowledge that, “this viewpoint is grounded enough to be worthy of debate”. In reality, some viewpoints are so absurd and ridiculous that they are not worthy of debate, and you get a societal benefit from simply laughing at them rather than engaging with them like they are legitimate people that can be persuaded by science and debate.
Stop feeding the trolls.
Where this approach falls apart is where the argument they’re making is convincing enough that it might appear legitimate to a less informed reader than you. The reader may not engage with the comment, but, if there’s no counter-argument, instead go away believing it may have some validity.
Obviously thus doesn’t apply to the more blatant forms of trolling, but even that distinction can be blurry.
Flat Earther: Complicated explanation on why it’s flat
Me: Your argument is flawed. Look the earth is flat but your argument is missing the important part.
Flat Earther: (leans in with excitement)
Me: The oceans, all of them, none of them are carbonated… all flat!
the more co2 we put in the atmosphere, the more carbonated the oceans will become
Fun fact, CO2 dissolved in water is acidic so not only are we heating it up we’re also poisoning it too!
You don’t cook much do you? You want to tenderize your meat with something acidic. Ocean water is already salty, so that takes care of some of the seasoning.
~🧑🍳 💋~
yeah the swedish name for carbonated drinks is literally kolsyrad, “carbonic acid-ed”.
Flat Earther: Sheesh, looks like somebody’s never heard of the Great Jurassic Shake-Up
🤣
I never feed trolls and I don’t read spam
-Albert Yankovich (early '00s philosopher)
“Nazis are bad”
“AckShUaLlY…”
Actually shut all the way the fuck up.
Nazis were a product of their material conditions. They emerged from the Holocaust of WW1 and gave birth to the Holocaust of WW2.
Terror of the outside, the foreigner, and the radical didn’t begin with Nazism. And it sure as hell didn’t end with them.
So what is to be done? Just wagging your finger at folks 80 years in the grave isn’t cutting it.
Especially when the term has become so polluted and distorted with ideological baggage that it ends up being used like this.

Lol what the fuck is this?
It’s not flat, mountains exist.
Bumpiness is not flat!
The internet DOES give you unlimited access to knowledge. The problem is:
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Not all of that knowledge is useful
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Learning is pretty boring when compared to arguing with someone about a book neither of you have read but are too proud to admit it.
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You think 2005 was like that?
Also in 2005: a forum post about gingerbread recipies hijacked for a 20 page long debate about the existance of God
Untill I see an ocean bubble from the carbonation I’ll believe it’s flat














