and gnome

I’ve never seen something get so heavily downvoted.

Well done.

That was impressive.

Poisoned the well on more than both sides. Hah.

Heh. That was fun to try to read. Took a couple extra seconds.

Then I wondered how well an LLM would manage that… XD It’s been going at it for minutes already.

Oh, it’s done now…

Worked for 6min 27s

The text is upside-down. Flipping each character and reversing the word order gives:

I love you all with the Crime songs

XD

W°Ħłеŧ ł°µµ@© ħªĦł łÆĦł §Әð槧ªШ Я£↑!|ª¢ ©Ł <<°Ħ m•µ» ªŊŊ ΩΩøµ º§!

;D

[ps. preface warning: dangerous whimsy here… rtfm… don’t dive in eager and blind and then “break” your system and come blame me.]

Debian user here. I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update. How do u folks deal with that?

I don’t [switch]. Instead I [(having already thoroughly read through all the documentation several times)]

• go to https://bedrocklinux.org/
• click on Installation Instructions
• click on the first from here link
• scroll down select the correct line for my architecture, e.g. https://github.com/bedrocklinux/bedrocklinux-userland/releases/download/0.7.31/bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh and paste it to a terminal as target for wget, wget https://github.com/bedrocklinux/bedrocklinux-userland/releases/download/0.7.31/bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh
• make it executable chmod +x bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh
• run it ./bedrock-linux-0.7.31-x86_64.sh
• run it again remembering the need to add --hijack
• run it again remembering the need to run it as root. (… I know, I could just remember to do sudo and --hijack first time, but I like this silly ritual).
• and type in the “Not reversible!”, knowing how non-trivial a change to my operating system is about to happen in an instant.
• reboot
• enjoy seeing the new init select screen after the grub screen (albeit with only one option yet)
• once back at a tty or once back in gui with a terminal emulator (… maybe after some more configuration tweaks, e.g. in /bedrock/etc/bedrock.conf), brl fetch arch
• et viola, done. can do sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo pacman -Syu.

… And more likely I’d do brl fetch void ; brl fetch gentoo ; brl fetch -r ceres -n ceres devuan ; brl fetch artix. But ^ that’s for if “I want to switch to arch but dont want to troubleshoot my pc after each update.”

Could also do frequent brl copy arch arch-fallback-(date) or some such, so then if something goes wrong with an upgrade, you could just carry on unperturbed, or even disable the stratum that had something go wrong, or even delete it, and brl rename arch-fallback-20260806 arch, and carry on with your day, sure it’ll resolve the upgrade properly next time tomorrow. ;)

But of course, this is a bit overkill, like starting a huge complex science and production logistics project just to crack a nut.

But it is my honest answer of how I deal with that. ;)

So feels like it.

Would be nice.

Can we pick this up again from 2005?

I wear a fedora, and I’ve used nearly any and all distros as my daily driver, except fedora.

It’s so confusing.

Reminds of the ol’ Churchill line… “Democracy is the worst form of government, except all the other types of government.”

I didn’t think it even applied to suse

More true than many realise.

Nice notion.

But then…

The other replies.

Not very.

Especially for suse. Huh?

I’d say, “inconclusive. it cuts off…”, but, seems reasonable, at least plausible, given the faceplant.

… I might try that hence, should I return to something Arch based. :D

At least Ubuntu are kind enough to offer a faceplant every 6 months like clockwork, to help get accustomed to it. ;3

As much as I have a side fetish for the likes of CRUX, KISS/Carbs [and suckless’ness, like sta.li, etc], out beyond my love of the likes of VoidLinux, Arch/Artix/etc, for their hands-on simplicity that keeps one in reach of manually installing software and building packages, but I really love gentoo’s accoutrements for “building packages with your hands”, not just marvelling at ebuild clarity, but also the likes of how it caters for patches and saved configs, and portage just carries on with it, as you want it, like a cool summer breeze… :) [/gentoo-fanboi mouth-froth. … Started getting carried away again there].

Facebook user’s would get what that is in the OP?

Huh.

It must have changed from when I would still hang around facebook users.

Windows taught me good to be a bit more cautious and curious

Doesn’t it normally do the opposite for most people?

feel way safer than before. Like, I started to regularly seek new updates via yay, it’s something you don’t hear from a windows boy.

Yep, eager to upgrade, when it’s not stuffed down your throat when you don’t want.

Could be telling us all something important about freedom… ;D

That sounds about typical for what I imagined.

Thanks for the reply,

right in the middle of my imagined bell curve of answers.

Yeah, that is (or was) part of the gentoo fun. :3 Lots of that kind of fun around the python versioning. Figuring out what emerge’s output means is sometimes 90% of the challenge, and other times if feels like that, but then it turns out to be only 10% of the challenge. But as for python versioning specifically, that may have very recently had a big uptick in getting slipstreamed through with fewer bumps in the road for users to deal with. Fingers crossed in hope, ~ remains to be seen through many future versions yet.

And there are official binhosts now, so it generally only compiles what you’ve changed the useflags for. Gentoo package management’s as snappy as other distros now. Though still as involved as ever for configuring the system how you want (albeit with few more ways to make it bother you a little less often now).

yay -Syu, it sure is.

Or was. I stopped using artix when the AUR troubles upticked.

Hrmm… that gets me pondering about cron’ing up a cascade of strata fetching (and whatever configuration copying required if any), such that there’d always be fallback… then, conceivably, could have “auto-updates and no problems ever”, and not even need worry about having adequate detection of problems to know when safe to proceed, as it would all just work, with something that just works still present, as bedrock strata. … May seem a mite heavy handed, and very wasteful for hd space though. … And no guarantees all that complexity on the back end (to confer simplicity on the front end) will stay "just work"ing, and not need problems mended. [edit… oh, and almost seems inevitable that some mirror layout change would break fetches too… so I guess it’s not so near to full proof.]

This is true. (always had installer, problems from haste & not reading).

It’s like I was fine reading to do the installation, but it was like then I was done reading, for the ongoing management. This does indeed make the pebkac errors inevitable sooner. … :/ I think, I see, why I read in gentoo, but didnt bother so much in arch… it’s not just the colours… it’s the pace. [Too easy to succumb to how, once past the installation, under use] Arch gets you accustomed to “now!” (/impatience). At least compared to old pre-binhost gentoo on older hardware.

Oh, and…

One of the harder and more involved processes and problems to solve was updating 6 years old abandoned install, took a few hours, because arch archive is pretty slow sometimes.

Restoring old gentoos to new is one of my fave geeky (~ and typically pointless) projects to undertake. … Not sure I’ve done one as old as 6 years yet… but I do have one that’s something like 16 years old. LOL. … When I amass the spoons for such an undertaking, I may attempt.