What will decay into a pathetic corpse of it’s former self after destroying things with actual value? The only things I can think of that match that description are the USA in the short-term, and humanity in the long-term.
I’m sure you could argue that Unit 731 had value and another one could create more, but it’s your job to prove it without providing further evidence of misanthropy.
Dude, USA affects all of the world already in a very significant way. Western world especially. While the decay of American imperialism is something a lot of us would like to see, it will, in the short term affect everyone negatively. The USA will not go out without a fight. Already, people across the world suffer because of it. It is precisely because of the USA and their economy. Economy, which is undoubtedly, by their own accounts, dominated by the AI tech industry. So, although indirectly, people outside the USA are negatively impacted by the AI. Not to mention direct impact it has (military literally being driven by AI).
So AI is whatever makes you right and me wrong, basically? Of course the ones responsible are the people building products based on AI. Nobody is arguing LLMs themselves are evil. What I’m talking about are massive datacenters built overly fast so that they need to use evaporative cooling and micro-turbines is an utterly irresponsible use of that technology. It’s like rushing to build a faster car than China and so you don’t install brakes and your cars start killing everyone on the streets. Of course a car isn’t evil, it’s the people irresponsibly designing them. AI tech is constantly doing propaganda fear mongering that if you don’t use their product RIGHT NOW - you’re getting left behind. If you don’t integrate them in your business RIGHT NOW, you’re gonna get overrun by competition. And the product is not nearly as reliable as they push it and not nearly as powerful as they claim. It’s a universal tool that is inefficient at any specific, specialized task. In fact, it’s painfully INEFFICIENT. But you and I wouldn’t know it, because nobody is publishing exactly how much it costs to run and how much they are subsidizing the use of it. The technology is useful, even revolutionary, but the way it’s overwhelmingly being used right now is bullshit. This way is not sustainable, not profitable and will end up costing the entire world. That’s what’s gonna happen. The technology will stick and people will find best uses for it and start paying attention about its use. But I doubt it will survive in this current form.
People are, in fact, arguing that LLM are evil. Your opinions line up very closely to my own, and I don’t think I disagree with anything you said.
I’m arguing with the “All AI is evil” people, that do in fact exist. Their headquarters is /fuck_ai, if you want to check it out. I’ve been banned thankfully, so I don’t have to put up with their bullshit, but their views do leak out onto the rest of the Internet.
You can’t (in good faith) claim “AI is the future” is “an obviously accurate forecast” when half of Lemmy is actively trying to dismantle that notion.
Why not? Like babies at a space opera, they can cry all they like about things they can’t comprehend that they wish would go away.
Except they’ll be just as effective as they were at making Bitcoin go away. (Bitcoin still exists, people still use it.)
Also, half is a very conservative estimate. I think hating AI is MUCH more popular on here. It feels like it should be the official Lemmy pastime.
Nobody uses Bitcoin lol, it’s a speculative asset now, not a cryptocurrency. You’re an idiot if you use it.
Appreciate the ignorant ad hominems. You represent Lemmy very well.
If by “it’ll decay into a pathetic corpse of its former self after destroying things with actual value,” then sure.
But we both know that’s not what you were trying to imply lol
What will decay into a pathetic corpse of it’s former self after destroying things with actual value? The only things I can think of that match that description are the USA in the short-term, and humanity in the long-term.
Hmmm… Maybe you meant to respond to someone else.
Of course an AI booster would be a misanthrope too.
Thanks for your slanderous and inaccurate assessment.
Of course someone who confuses the use of a technology with the technology itself would also confuse an observation with judgment.
You’re the one who was reminded of the rot and failure of NFTs and decided to say “nuh-uh, actually people are bad instead.” You’re a misanthrope.
It’s your job to prove these things are actually worth keeping around at all.
Your reading comprehension skills are pitiful. Explaining anything to you is obviously a waste of time.
I’ll give you a breadcrumb to help you find your way back to sanity, though:
Ask yourself if those data centers are necessary. For anything. Can AI be utilized without them? If so… Can you figure it out from there?
I’m sure you could argue that Unit 731 had value and another one could create more, but it’s your job to prove it without providing further evidence of misanthropy.
Dude, USA affects all of the world already in a very significant way. Western world especially. While the decay of American imperialism is something a lot of us would like to see, it will, in the short term affect everyone negatively. The USA will not go out without a fight. Already, people across the world suffer because of it. It is precisely because of the USA and their economy. Economy, which is undoubtedly, by their own accounts, dominated by the AI tech industry. So, although indirectly, people outside the USA are negatively impacted by the AI. Not to mention direct impact it has (military literally being driven by AI).
Only one disagreement: you’re confusing the technology with it’s use.
A gun isn’t a blindfolded execution
A car isn’t a vehicular manslaughter.
A pool of water isn’t a homicidal drowning.
AI is not what you just described.
So AI is whatever makes you right and me wrong, basically? Of course the ones responsible are the people building products based on AI. Nobody is arguing LLMs themselves are evil. What I’m talking about are massive datacenters built overly fast so that they need to use evaporative cooling and micro-turbines is an utterly irresponsible use of that technology. It’s like rushing to build a faster car than China and so you don’t install brakes and your cars start killing everyone on the streets. Of course a car isn’t evil, it’s the people irresponsibly designing them. AI tech is constantly doing propaganda fear mongering that if you don’t use their product RIGHT NOW - you’re getting left behind. If you don’t integrate them in your business RIGHT NOW, you’re gonna get overrun by competition. And the product is not nearly as reliable as they push it and not nearly as powerful as they claim. It’s a universal tool that is inefficient at any specific, specialized task. In fact, it’s painfully INEFFICIENT. But you and I wouldn’t know it, because nobody is publishing exactly how much it costs to run and how much they are subsidizing the use of it. The technology is useful, even revolutionary, but the way it’s overwhelmingly being used right now is bullshit. This way is not sustainable, not profitable and will end up costing the entire world. That’s what’s gonna happen. The technology will stick and people will find best uses for it and start paying attention about its use. But I doubt it will survive in this current form.
People are, in fact, arguing that LLM are evil. Your opinions line up very closely to my own, and I don’t think I disagree with anything you said.
I’m arguing with the “All AI is evil” people, that do in fact exist. Their headquarters is /fuck_ai, if you want to check it out. I’ve been banned thankfully, so I don’t have to put up with their bullshit, but their views do leak out onto the rest of the Internet.