• fluxx@mander.xyz
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    3 days ago

    Dude, USA affects all of the world already in a very significant way. Western world especially. While the decay of American imperialism is something a lot of us would like to see, it will, in the short term affect everyone negatively. The USA will not go out without a fight. Already, people across the world suffer because of it. It is precisely because of the USA and their economy. Economy, which is undoubtedly, by their own accounts, dominated by the AI tech industry. So, although indirectly, people outside the USA are negatively impacted by the AI. Not to mention direct impact it has (military literally being driven by AI).

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      3 days ago

      Only one disagreement: you’re confusing the technology with it’s use.

      A gun isn’t a blindfolded execution

      A car isn’t a vehicular manslaughter.

      A pool of water isn’t a homicidal drowning.

      AI is not what you just described.

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        3 days ago

        So AI is whatever makes you right and me wrong, basically? Of course the ones responsible are the people building products based on AI. Nobody is arguing LLMs themselves are evil. What I’m talking about are massive datacenters built overly fast so that they need to use evaporative cooling and micro-turbines is an utterly irresponsible use of that technology. It’s like rushing to build a faster car than China and so you don’t install brakes and your cars start killing everyone on the streets. Of course a car isn’t evil, it’s the people irresponsibly designing them. AI tech is constantly doing propaganda fear mongering that if you don’t use their product RIGHT NOW - you’re getting left behind. If you don’t integrate them in your business RIGHT NOW, you’re gonna get overrun by competition. And the product is not nearly as reliable as they push it and not nearly as powerful as they claim. It’s a universal tool that is inefficient at any specific, specialized task. In fact, it’s painfully INEFFICIENT. But you and I wouldn’t know it, because nobody is publishing exactly how much it costs to run and how much they are subsidizing the use of it. The technology is useful, even revolutionary, but the way it’s overwhelmingly being used right now is bullshit. This way is not sustainable, not profitable and will end up costing the entire world. That’s what’s gonna happen. The technology will stick and people will find best uses for it and start paying attention about its use. But I doubt it will survive in this current form.

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          3 days ago

          People are, in fact, arguing that LLM are evil. Your opinions line up very closely to my own, and I don’t think I disagree with anything you said.

          I’m arguing with the “All AI is evil” people, that do in fact exist. Their headquarters is /fuck_ai, if you want to check it out. I’ve been banned thankfully, so I don’t have to put up with their bullshit, but their views do leak out onto the rest of the Internet.