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Oh wait, I know this one: “I know you are, but what am I?”

Name-calling. The last bastion of the stubbornly illogical. I can picture you as a toddler, stamping your feet in a huff as you try to think up more names to call people who disagree with you.

Many, many, many things “consume a lot of power” which is both common and benign. A whirlpool tub “consumes a lot of power” for example. So does an electric stove. And the power can be from any source, such as solar, hydro, or wind.

That’s why I specified there’s minor issues that could be argued about the original data sources. However, that bird has flown the coop. There’s no putting that genie back in the bottle, and no way to undo it. You could argue the company’s responsible owe every single person on the planet some form of restitution, which I do, but I don’t think that qualifies as an ethical concern since it’s universal. No one person was harmed more than another, it was all publicly available data - so the public should benefit from the result. Refusing to use it only hampers yourself, at no detriment to those perceived as wrongdoers.

Ah, you got me. I copied the double negative of the original comment. You’re right, the replies here show there are indeed very many people annoyed by the ‘slop’ comments.

You’re likely conflating the tools with the implementation or the implementers. An open source model on local hardware has next to zero ethical concerns.

There are MANY ethical concerns about the actions of the big players in AI, their data centers, and to some extent, the original, bootstrapped training data sourcing.

Is nobody exasperatedly tired of comments calling anything remotely related to AI ‘slop??’

Who is arguing? I am simply reaffirming the unassailable truth that you spout, as only a true art gatekeeper can. Only we can decide what is art, and what is not, and a computer stealing art by making duplicates of existing art, without any human input whatsoever, is definitely not art.

…You never did tell me what sticks you prefer to use, what kind of sand, and how you blindfold yourself… I’m beginning to suspect you’re not actually an artist. You probably make electro-slop, right?

I can see how an enhanced sister existing would be a boon to your process. Especially if she owns a Jell-O mould. Doubly so if she has a Go Pro, or possibly even two… 🤔 You just might be on the verge of inventing several new categories of quality adult entertainment.

Yes, and as we all know, there is no human involved when AI is used. The computer spontaneously has an idea, specifies all the details, reviews the results, tweaks them, and continues refinement until the computers own vision is achieved. It does this by sketching the work of others who have already created what it wants; and because all art that can be created, has already been created, this is possible solely through theft. The computers final output is a replica of someone else’s art, and at no point is a person involved in the process.

I am also stating facts, fellow art gatekeeper.

I feel the same way about paper. The corpse of a living being as your canvas? How despicably morbid. Definitely the modus operandi of tools. Fuck paper “canvas.” I call those abominations: corpse-slop.

And don’t get me started on the losers who think they can make art with computers. Do you know how much electricity those use? Not to mention all the pirating of media - someone making “art” with a computer probably based it off something they stole online, so it’s not even original. I call those losers’ attempts: electro-slop.

Everyone knows true artists use sticks that fell off a tree to make art in the dirt. That’s the only way to make real art. And if they used their eyes to see anything else that anyone else made before they used their twig, then it’s not original art. Then it’s copy-slop.

It’s nice to finally meet a fellow real artist, who takes gatekeeping art very seriously, like I do. What type of branches do you prefer to use, what’s your favorite type of soil, and what do you like to use as a blindfold, to make sure you don’t accidentally make any copy-slop?

Edit: Oh, and don’t you just love that feeling, as a fellow art gatekeeper, when someone shows you something that they made but they didn’t use the tools or methods that you approve of, so you get to you say to their face: “That’s not art, you loser, you just made slop!” Being an art gatekeeper is the best!

Your message is slop.

Keep it up for at least seven hours, you can do it! You can make a comeback. Your best days are NOT behind you, but then neither is your prosthetically-enhanced sister.

Everything is slop now because the term has lost all meaning. If you can’t tell if something"is slop", then by literal definition it is not slop, but you can’t/won’t accept that, therefore everything is now slop.

Stop nitpicking artists for the tools they’ve used, and just enjoy their creations already without the compulsive need to label it.

Shhh… Let the haters hate. Hate is all they have. It’s the only thing that makes them feel superior.

Sprawling, unnecessary, wasteful buildings containing technologies seized from the public so that corporations can establish a monopoly on technology that should be freely available for everyone.

People are, in fact, arguing that LLM are evil. Your opinions line up very closely to my own, and I don’t think I disagree with anything you said.

I’m arguing with the “All AI is evil” people, that do in fact exist. Their headquarters is /fuck_ai, if you want to check it out. I’ve been banned thankfully, so I don’t have to put up with their bullshit, but their views do leak out onto the rest of the Internet.

It’s odd to oppose the concentration of access to hardware, and the resulting corporation-owned monopoly? You think data centers are “just a technology?” Where do local models “really come from” and why do you think it matters?

This should be entertaining…

Why is that my job? I oppose data centers, I’ll state that plainly since you can’t seem to reason.

Your reading comprehension skills are pitiful. Explaining anything to you is obviously a waste of time.

I’ll give you a breadcrumb to help you find your way back to sanity, though:

Ask yourself if those data centers are necessary. For anything. Can AI be utilized without them? If so… Can you figure it out from there?

You’re so witty. Did you come to Lemmy straight from Reddit, or did you spend a couple years on Musk’s Twitter to really refine your brilliant takes?

Thanks, they’re representative of the clueless masses blinded by irrational hatred. Nothing will change by pointing them out, but it sure is entertaining to the pragmatic few.