But it could have been different. I just think we were responsible for the culture. This stuff was inevitable. But we had the ability to shape the culture and instead they dangled a trinket in front of us and we forgot and they captured the new frontier like they did with others.

But now maybe if we can reflect, find out what was done, create awareness and vigilance to fight them in the next frontier whenever that is

WUT? Why?

Monetization is the root of a majority of our issues. Without monetizing you don’t get data scarcity, profile tracking, Meta, Cambridge analyticals and eventually data that feeds into the current political systems. There is a direct arrow to our current problems that goes from early days of the internet up through the monetization into data scarcity, data collection and all the marketing tools that eventually feed into modern propaganda. Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently. We can’t ever go back to that. We only ever had one chance. New frontiers do not show up every century. Our job was to keep the people who ruined everything else away.

Hear me out. From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online. I don’t care if you built something cool, sold furry art or create some neat SAAS. Day one everything should have been stolen and replicated. Everyone should have been terrified of putting anything online out of fear that the monetary value would go to 0 as it was digitally recreated. We wouldn’t be in this situation today with Trump if we stood our ground. We’d have flying cars and world peace

I’ve been banned as well. I reset my IP and get back to their groups.

I don’t think we got pushed out so much as they made it hostile. They weaponized reporting. That’s fine. We can to except we can’t any longer since we didn’t organize well.

The glue being this is the network. I watched them connect their network pre 2016. I didn’t get at the time why it was happening. But you could see small random annoying fucks adding everybody. It turned into a wild organized information dissemination network. That’s how they weaponized reporting and made it appear that all these platforms were against the left.

But ask yourself why the effort. It’s a few accounts driving it all. It’s heritage TPUSA foundation interns spending 40 hrs a week using 4chan tactics. It’s going to get worse very quickly very soon with the election coming. We should be disrupting them, not rolling out a red carpet

So you know, this week the modern nazi group patriot front is creating lots of posts and comments. So you can say “not my problem” but next year when you’re wondering why so many people accepted these racists as heroes, just know it was because they had no push back and could frame themselves as whatever they want. Rinse and repeat every month for whatever the months thing is.

You mistranslated what I wrote.

Are they?

Can you lay out for me what they are doing, and who does it benefit?

Because AI is here. It’s like saying you’re going to stop oil production in Texas. It looks like the left is being used to stall progress in an emerging competitive tech industry that will shape the next century of power. Looks like a primary generator is a website that is heavily tied to Chinese propaganda.

It is it in the same way deciding not to vote Democrat in a two party system is helping MAGA.

It’s so superficial to say you don’t care to participate just because you met some confrontation that you weren’t comfortable with. It’s fine to quit. But don’t lie to yourself that it’s Benign. When you’re part of a mass exodus of people with similar views during these periods where small groups of people are using bots to sway public opinion, that is worse then deciding not to vote.

I don’t care if they’re nazi platform 3.0. The fact is that is where the public is. That is where our family and friends and Co workers and law makers and judges all are and they’re getting their information from. Saying you’re too good for it might give you a moment of relief that won’t last. The views and opinions and shit posts that the right can now lie and spread increases and that seeps into everyday life.

People for the longest time downplay digital spaces as if they’re not critical. Meanwhile they’ll also argue that billions are being spent to manipulate these spaces. I argue that part of those billions that were invested went to convincing all of us to abandon these spaces and we did willingly.

I’m starting to see a shift of people coming back. But people need to wake the fuck up and go back to what it was 15 years ago when we actually shut these racist fucks down and didn’t let them spread their bullshit. I don’t know why leftist today are such cowards, but if they continue with this stuff they’re done in the next 15 years. Most won’t even admit they did it to themselves

I let nazis spread their message because I’m choosing this one corporation to stand against even though its the most dangerous time to take our eyes and ears off them. It’s all vibes really.

This is propaganda. Its the left’s version of “roving caravans of gang members coming into the country”

What do you mean try? They are not desperate. They just are doing it. On every platform. The left is absolute cooked. There is no defense from the left against this. The left saw the writing on the wall and shot themselves in the foot over this decades ago. Now the right have the tools that the left used and because the left gave out to capitalism and profit seeking, the right was able to co-opt the platforms and use those same tools to accomplish a hostile takeover. Just wait until the kids today who experience the internet and the views spread on these platforms become adults. Maybe we can make some bean and moth memes until then.

It’s anger.

I went on Facebook earlier. I saw a post in a ‘Lord of The Rings’ group that shared a meme comparing orcs to immigrants. The whole joke was that the orc said “my son was born in the shire therefore he is a hobbit” because you know. Immigrants and refugees.

And then I saw a Bobs Burger group where the main post was the family holding up an anti Trans flag. This stuff is daily. The comments are much worse.

I see this everyday and I partially blame all of you here. So many of you here were the ‘exodus’ people. Convincing every liberal or leftist user to block and ban and remove ourselves from other areas online. Since then everything has become so much worse and even though responsibility is on the poster, I still hold so many of you responsible for quitting when you’re needed the most.

I come here to lemmy to see if anything crazy good is happening and it isn’t. Like 4chan launched whole ass investigations. A bunch of racist morons performed some of the greatest opsec in internet history. Lemmy is posting about beans and moths and I just don’t know what to do beyond being mad at you all.

And I get it, touch grass. But that doesn’t help when I log off and go out only to find that the hatred and toxicity from these major platforms is infecting the whole yard. There’s no escape. And you people who are suppose to be the resistance can’t be fucking bothered. You’re like lulled into this weird quiet existence only to be rallied under the most useless civic action imaginable every 2 years.

I just don’t know what to do other than be mad and angry.

We should be out there. Identifying these networks and the latest strategies being used to corrupt everything. We should be innovating and building protections with fediverse. Instead we got pro China moderation and censorship and bean memes. I don’t know. It’s just defeating.

Why Comment. There’s like 4 people here. Do you do this often?

Why is everything considered trolling now. Obviously it’s not meant to be a max positivity approved meme. I just thought it was something we could have a laugh.

It’s just sad what is reported as trolling now. I’m all for the downvotes but reporting for trolling is stupid.

Come on. It’s honestly just jokes. I saw it and thought it was a good laugh

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