google search results are still kind of useful especially for non-english language queries, anyone knows a good alternative?

searxng also doesn’t really seem to work these days…

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    “internet indexer” should really be a government / EU / UN sponsored public utility thing. And then you have front ends that can improve the search query and filter and sort the results.

    I don’t know how much it would cost / how large a data center it would take to cache the web pages like google does. But there is just no reason to have so much wealth / advertising drain from the public for such a fundamental thing.

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      Entirely depends on the instance admin and whether or not they keep it maintained and up to date.

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    All of this when you get the super excellent Kagi for 10 dollars, from an actual search company that values privacy.

    Its exactly what everyone wants but no, can’t pay 10 dollars I guess. :)

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      from an actual search company that values privacy.

      California company obliged by FVEY? While I appreciate their efforts, American based companies kind of have a history of abandoning their privacy-respecting ways once subpoenaed.

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    This might be one of those things where self hosting isn’t worth the pain, like email.

    I’ve been using Kagi for several years now and have been very happy with it.

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      Nah, fuck Kagi.

      They are literally giving part of your subscription fee to fucking Russia. In comparison, DuckDuckGo have ended their partnership with Yandex. Vlads refusal to follow suit and his steadfast support of Yandex is quite telling to say the least.

      Yet another part of your subscription goes to Elon Musks xAI to support Grok in their AI assistant. Even if you are not using that model, all paying users are effectively subsidizing the cost of the Grok API calls. You can’t opt out of that.

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        You should look into why so many people isn’t angry at Russia and are now blaming US. Your anger is exactly how US manufactures consent for all their wars, and it keeps you from discovering why people doesn’t hate Russia and even blame US/the west for starting it. They simply create a lynchmob - an echo-chamber - where people won’t listen to counter points bco anger. It works.

        ALL US moral attacks on their ‘enemies’ (Ussr/Russia, N.Korea, China, Iran and oc ALL nations that wont be dictated how to live by the US elite) are such manufactured BS, and it all runs on the anger they create in people, and from there, they can do what they want in the name of ‘war against evil’. It will continue as long as people keep believing US and their controlled information bubble.

        Give it a try, just read all the headlines in this list: What really happened in Ukraine?

        If you couldn’t, or you still refuse the idea of foul play after reading - they got to you…

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    The modern internet is getting filthier by the day. Gone are the days where independent software used to be a thing I suppose.

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      Hear me out. From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online. I don’t care if you built something cool, sold furry art or create some neat SAAS. Day one everything should have been stolen and replicated. Everyone should have been terrified of putting anything online out of fear that the monetary value would go to 0 as it was digitally recreated. We wouldn’t be in this situation today with Trump if we stood our ground. We’d have flying cars and world peace

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        From day one we all needed to collectively reject any effort to make any profit online.

        WUT? Why?

        We wouldn’t be in this situation today with Trump

        Trump was inevitable and is a product of silly, gullible Americans blown about by political winds without a compass or direction. Americans don’t vote with the long term in mind. For the most part, their future lies within 4 year increments, never really grasping the fact that legislation passed today will be with us for generations if not longer. All you have to do is look at Cannabis laws in this country perpetuated by rich, white, racist, capitalist from 100 years ago.

        We’d have flying cars and world peace

        As someone who has been promised flying cars for 71 years, I don’t think I want the average motorist flying about all willy nilly. We can’t even handle the tarmac ffs…and you want flying cars? World peace? The world doesn’t want peace. There is too much to be had in conflict.

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          WUT? Why?

          Monetization is the root of a majority of our issues. Without monetizing you don’t get data scarcity, profile tracking, Meta, Cambridge analyticals and eventually data that feeds into the current political systems. There is a direct arrow to our current problems that goes from early days of the internet up through the monetization into data scarcity, data collection and all the marketing tools that eventually feed into modern propaganda. Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently. We can’t ever go back to that. We only ever had one chance. New frontiers do not show up every century. Our job was to keep the people who ruined everything else away.

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            Safe guarding against scarcity by creating a hostile internet and culture to monetization would have prevented all of this going on currently.

            That die was cast long before the internet.

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              But it could have been different. I just think we were responsible for the culture. This stuff was inevitable. But we had the ability to shape the culture and instead they dangled a trinket in front of us and we forgot and they captured the new frontier like they did with others.

              But now maybe if we can reflect, find out what was done, create awareness and vigilance to fight them in the next frontier whenever that is