They all do this. San francisco used to be the old hyperliterate drug fueled counterculture mecca. So they still identify with that, and there’s still like vestigial aesthetic shreds of the old city’s corpse hanging off their beloved Moloch (howl-written in San Francisco). So they see literary allusions and implying they’ve read books as cool. Especially the ones who came up in the 80s and 90s when the old literate hippies could still afford to live there.
But none of them have read more than one book, because one is enough to reference, right? and they didn’t understand it. So mike zuckerberg read ‘snow crash’ and is just doing all the evil shit from ‘snow crash’. Thiel read LOTR. Whoever keeps giving money to ‘ai children’s toy’ read ‘diamond age’.
Because they see is=aught and can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality on an emotional level, being shit heads who fundamentally disrespect the very concept of humanities and have no interiority.
i think one thing people miss is that counter culture movements sometimes win people over in the worst ways and they get really extreme ideas, or really extreme people get spun up in them and become little evil vorticies of power and influence. The sixties spawned the civil rights movement, peace movement. It also created the Manson family. There’s a sort of yin and yang to these things IMO, creation and destruction. It’s like a period of high energy and change and that can get used in many creative and destructive ways.
Some people see today as terrible and think socialism will fix it. Others, fascism. Two people agree that current leaders are failing, but for different reasons. And when everyone is demanding change, you can get some dangerous people to pop out of the wood work.
People like Musk and Thiel grow up in free thinking environments and in counter culture meccas and are a direct result of that energy. They dont run counter to it. They are a product of it.
There are complexities. Sure. Pushing new ideas is always complicated, and shitty people can do shitty things with them.
The Manson family was hoover’s baby. Not that they’re innocent, but they had help sucking that much.
None of that is this. The counter culture hasn’t been there for decades; what’s left is aesthetic remnants.
Thiel grew up in a Nazi cult. I think in south Africa? There were swastikas on the flags in his school. Musk is from south africa-during apartheid. They’re not from fucking San Francisco. You’re trying to make a point about how too much freedom is bad sometimes. I’ve got complex feelings, but your point is totally unsupported by facts on display here.
The point of what I said is that they’re not genuinely from/of there, its just the cultural milleiu they knew in their 20s. They pulled the fucking aesthetics and nothing else, and they’re getting stupid(er) because even the fucking aesthetics were too much for them.
The idea that the entire country was on the razors edge of a “race ware” in which the “coloreds” were going to topple American society was very much a product of the media in the 1960s designed specifically to terrify the white folks into opposing the civil rights movement and was the founding principal of Manson’s entire plan.
The idea that the entire country was on the razors edge of a “race ware” in which the “coloreds” were going to topple American society was very much a product of the media in the 1960s
Musk once went to a gala where someone told musk about a cool book series with funny ai ships. He then skimmed the wiki page and assumes he understands the book better than anyone else.
Nah, he straight up said that in Mordor shit worked, while outside it was all “wishy-washy and environmental” (direct quote). Too bad I haven’t saved the link.
Of course, ‘environmental’ is an insult for someone like that bastard.
They all do this. San francisco used to be the old hyperliterate drug fueled counterculture mecca. So they still identify with that, and there’s still like vestigial aesthetic shreds of the old city’s corpse hanging off their beloved Moloch (howl-written in San Francisco). So they see literary allusions and implying they’ve read books as cool. Especially the ones who came up in the 80s and 90s when the old literate hippies could still afford to live there.
But none of them have read more than one book, because one is enough to reference, right? and they didn’t understand it. So mike zuckerberg read ‘snow crash’ and is just doing all the evil shit from ‘snow crash’. Thiel read LOTR. Whoever keeps giving money to ‘ai children’s toy’ read ‘diamond age’.
Because they see is=aught and can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality on an emotional level, being shit heads who fundamentally disrespect the very concept of humanities and have no interiority.
Fucking Mike
i think one thing people miss is that counter culture movements sometimes win people over in the worst ways and they get really extreme ideas, or really extreme people get spun up in them and become little evil vorticies of power and influence. The sixties spawned the civil rights movement, peace movement. It also created the Manson family. There’s a sort of yin and yang to these things IMO, creation and destruction. It’s like a period of high energy and change and that can get used in many creative and destructive ways.
Some people see today as terrible and think socialism will fix it. Others, fascism. Two people agree that current leaders are failing, but for different reasons. And when everyone is demanding change, you can get some dangerous people to pop out of the wood work.
People like Musk and Thiel grow up in free thinking environments and in counter culture meccas and are a direct result of that energy. They dont run counter to it. They are a product of it.
There are complexities. Sure. Pushing new ideas is always complicated, and shitty people can do shitty things with them.
The Manson family was hoover’s baby. Not that they’re innocent, but they had help sucking that much.
None of that is this. The counter culture hasn’t been there for decades; what’s left is aesthetic remnants.
Thiel grew up in a Nazi cult. I think in south Africa? There were swastikas on the flags in his school. Musk is from south africa-during apartheid. They’re not from fucking San Francisco. You’re trying to make a point about how too much freedom is bad sometimes. I’ve got complex feelings, but your point is totally unsupported by facts on display here.
The point of what I said is that they’re not genuinely from/of there, its just the cultural milleiu they knew in their 20s. They pulled the fucking aesthetics and nothing else, and they’re getting stupid(er) because even the fucking aesthetics were too much for them.
lol no i’m not at all making a point about freedom being bad. No idea how you got that.
How did “the 60s” create the Manson family?
We’ve had literally countless (often more) grisly and bizarre murders since Manson. No reason it should be any more notable.
But I guess giving it some kind of mystical import helps you make an argument
The idea that the entire country was on the razors edge of a “race ware” in which the “coloreds” were going to topple American society was very much a product of the media in the 1960s designed specifically to terrify the white folks into opposing the civil rights movement and was the founding principal of Manson’s entire plan.
That was a product of their LSD-addled brains.
Did you really add a ‘fascism bad, socialism also bad’ in an edit? You’re just a fuckin Nazi aren’t you?
These people have an overwhelming predisposition to take a shit on everything. They encountered a thing. They took a shit on it.
Well yeah, they need to be the “alphas” and mark everything they like, especially cultural touchstones, as theirs.
Otherwise, those things would be ours , and that’s Communism! (“Haven’t you read Animal Farm?!” They’ll screech, as they use 1984 as a roadmap.)
They can’t imagine coexistence without zero-sum Thunderdome-esque competition over who gets to take and hold everything away from everyone else.
I’d have gone with The Veldt but ok
Stephenson is pretty popular there. The shitheaded casually racist voerhoevenesque pithiness makes them feel smart and cool.
Yep. Musk read a Culture book, probably Excession. Definitely not Surface Detail. He would have been offended.
Musk once went to a gala where someone told musk about a cool book series with funny ai ships. He then skimmed the wiki page and assumes he understands the book better than anyone else.
No, it was ‘the player of games’ and he thought the main character was just the coolest guy omg you have no idea.
i could have sworn it was ender’s game.
They must think LOTR is an instruction manual in how to become an evil overlord or something
Nah, they just tell themselves everyone who’s against them is an orc.
You know that Thiel explicitly sides with Sauron, as he himself has said in interviews? How would orcs be against him?
???
That’s… honestly less surprising than I would have expected.
“Yeah but…I’d be a good Sauron.”
“That sounds like where Boromir went wrong…”
“Haha ‘Boromir’ huh? What’s their stock ticker? Maybe I can acquire them too…”
Nah, he straight up said that in Mordor shit worked, while outside it was all “wishy-washy and environmental” (direct quote). Too bad I haven’t saved the link.
Of course, ‘environmental’ is an insult for someone like that bastard.