• joe@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You are talking about a different thing than I am. The American healthcare system is garbage with or without AI, but AI is helping the medical field. Getting a more accurate analysis of an MRI scan is objectively a good thing, for example, even if the healthcare system that performed the scan is garbage.

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      2 days ago

      They’re not using LLMs to analyse MRI scans. There are image processing algorithms for that, but they’re a whole other thing to what this entire thread is about.

      Also, are you a fucking bot? I’ve read all your comments so far in this thread and uhh yeah. Please feel free to jog on now.

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        2 days ago

        I’ve read all your comments so far

        I’m flattered. Did you read the first one where I said it was reductive to equate AI with chatbots?

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          2 days ago

          When people say AI they are talking about Gen AI chatbots. Pretending they aren’t in a thread discussing an article where the author is definitely talking about chatbots is being really pedantic.

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            2 days ago

            Which was my earlier point. He is wrong when he equates AI with nothing more than chatbots.

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              2 days ago

              He’s not wrong. He’s talking about what everyone else is talking about and you’re arguing semantics. AI is generic enough of a term that it’s been applied to thousands of things over time. But almost all of the modern hype about “AI” and the stock bubble and everything is referring to the chatbots. I know you know this.

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                2 days ago

                As I said elsewhere, that’s like saying the internet is just websites (and apparently for some people, that’s all it is).

                However, it’s irrelevant, Doctorow may have wanted to just discuss chatbots, but that doesn’t mean that’s all I’m allowed to discuss. I’ve tried to make it clear that I’m not just talking about chatbots. If I wasn’t clear enough on that point, I apologise

                Now that this has been cleared up, do you have anything further to discuss?

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                    2 days ago

                    If you have any specific constructive criticism or corrections for me, I’ll happily read them. Otherwise, it seems more like you’re avoiding addressing what I’ve said and just looking to insult me, which I’m sure was not your intent.

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      How is “helping the medical field” not compatible with better healthcare quality? If the end user isn’t experiencing benefits, then how can you claim that benefits have been provided? Who is getting these “benefits” if it’s not the end user? If someone IS getting benefits, yet the end users still haven’t gotten a better experience… Then can you agree that AI is only helping intermediaries? Like… The corporations who provide the garbage experience?

      Do you see your logical fallacy here?

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        2 days ago

        If your loved one is diagnosed with cancer early that would have been missed by a human, that’s a fucking benefit, is it not?

        I’m sick of luddites.

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          20 hours ago

          But is that happening? Have we seen better diagnoses? Can you reference a study showing that we are actually catching more cancer?

          Or are you just feeding into the bullshit of “AI IS CHANGING EVERYTHING” because that’s what they tell you?

          I’m sick of people like you claiming benefits from a technology that is literally raping us all. Our checkbooks, our jobs, our environments, our freedoms, our communities. “But but someone told me it’s helping” fuck off prove it.

          You’re sick of luddites? I’m sick of being lied to, and sick of saps like you spreading the lies.