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        4 months ago

        why would an individual car “train” that can go anywhere (eg. train tracks on all roads for self driving cars) be shitter than a train that has limited availability and is extremely restrictive in where it can go?

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          Because you have to pay a good chunk of a year’s salary for one, store it around your house somewhere, and then when you finally do get to use it, there are a million other people with the same idea and you have to compete just for space in which to use it.

          And that’s before you get to all the maintenance the government has to spend on the paths (and make you pay tax for all that). Oh, and it’s incredibly dangerous, so dangerous that it’s one of the leading causes of death in the US.

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            4 months ago

            We are talking about an equivalent ‘pod/train car’, not a car but I’ll bite anyway

            Have you ever been on a train? It sucks, a bus 10000% more, buses fuckin suck so much, I’m sorry for you to hear this in the echo chamber which features ‘fuck cars’.

            Like I said, trains and buses have 2 big negatives:

            limited availability and is extremely restrictive in where it can go

            Trains especially so, my local train would be a 20-30 minute walk away and it goes far south and to the city, if i don’t want to go to either of those I’m in for a 5 hour marathon of a trip at best

            But we should invest more in trains you might be saying, and again the question goes back to, why would a train be better than a pod/car that can roll around on train tracks

            This whole thread took the original meaning and warped it into a circle jerk about trains which is not what the OP was saying

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              4 months ago

              Sure badly built or unprioritized public transit infrastructure might suck, but busses and trains sure are amazing when prioritised, built correctly.

              Many European cities combine well functioning train, bus and cycle infrastructure, which together makes it possible to go anywhere at any time for cheap.

              I think it really just comes down to prioritizing to develop the infrastructure (costs money and requires political will to move away from car based infrastructure).

              Also I don’t think a pod system would solve any of the problems of either cars or trains/busses and would be much more expensive…

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      4 months ago

      What if we had trains, but bigger?

      I’m not making a joke, I honestly think making the track a little wider would be a great innovation.

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        4 months ago

        Well it would require wider curves and be incompatible with existing rolling stock.

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    4 months ago

    “I have invented a computer that can handle the complexities of a dense, conflicting network of streets prone to collisions with on-traffic. It just needs a specialized road that is less dense and doesn’t have conflicts with other on-traffic.”
    “Is your program just ‘Accelerator-turn-on()’?”
    “How did you get that information?? Who broke NDA!?”

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    4 months ago

    The only way to solve the self driving cat issue is to ban all human drivers from the road.

    So, if some techbro wants self driving cars, just give everybody one. All electric of course.

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      Giving everybody a self-driving car completely defeats the purpose. Human-driven cars spend about 23 hours of each day just sitting around. A car that can drive itself doesn’t need to spend any time being parked - it can provide another ride! Liberally assuming a self-driving car would need to spend a full half of its time (12 hours/day) charging or being serviced, that would still mean that replacing all cars with autonomous vehicles could reduce traffic volume by a theoretical limit of 12× (12 hours/day/vehicle vs. 1 hour/day/vehicle).

      • gandalf_der_12te@feddit.orgOP
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        4 months ago

        you’re forgetting here that all people want to commute at the same time between 7am and 9am in the morning. so you can’t just operate 1 vehicle 24 hours around, you need the vehicles for these two hours especially and then some in the afternoon.

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      4 months ago

      They’re not really trying to do anything. They’re trying to get venture capital money. The more impressive and revolutionary the blender render is, the more likely they are to get some fat, unsecured VC money. Then they’ll cash out and move on to the next thing.

      It’s a grift. They just need the poors to be excited about their bullshit to convince someone with money that there’s money to be made with their bullshit.

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    Trains cant take you to specific spots, especially outside the greater urban areas.

    When my public transport to work stops being 3-4x longer than simply driving, not to mention the inherent issues of being stuffed into a bus, let me know.

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      Trains cant take you to specific spots, especially outside the greater urban areas.

      That’s called the “Last mile” problem. Trains and buses aren’t much good for a whole day’s worth of shopping either. Try and haul 2 weeks worth of groceries for a family of 3 on a bus. But trains are great for longer distance travel from one area to another. And buses can be great for a quick one-stop trip to the hardware store. But a cargo e-bike would be better yet for light shopping.

      I’m all for banning all motor vehicles in major cities, except emergency units. And leave the daily driving to those of us that live in the middle of nowhere and seldom visit large cities.

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        Dense public transportation sorta fixes the last mile problem. And buying local fixes the Walmart/carrefour problem. I buy groceries every two or three days, and the grocery shops are always at walking distance from home.

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    4 months ago

    Trains don’t rule that much when they lose power in a 40 degree heat which is happening all over Europe right now.