• matelt@feddit.uk
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    16 hours ago

    I’ve been on Ozempic and then switched to mounjaro and while Ozempic worked really well at stopping food noise, Mounjaro does very little for some reason. I hate that the food noise is still present and I can absolutely confirm that bloody hormones ruin everything because I’m literally rage-eating before a period.

    I wish I could go back on Ozempic but my GP says they’re not allowed to switch me back because MJ works at controlling my blood sugar, which is why I’m getting it - not for losing weight. Even though my BMI is 43 and I could use some help.

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      15 hours ago

      What about Zepbound? I tried that for a few months (was like 25 lbs overweight) and I shed the excess off with very little side effects. I stopped taking it 3 months ago and have only gained about 2 lbs back.

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        14 hours ago

        I’m very happy for you, keep up the good work! It’s important to use the GLP1 to build good habits.

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          13 hours ago

          Thanks! I gained most of the excess weight after divorcing and drinking more than usual. Trying to get used to the new norm, one step at a time!

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        15 hours ago

        Unfortunately this is NHS guidelines so no matter what GP I go to they’ll probably tell me the same thing. I can’t afford the private prescription either so I’ll just be grateful for what I can get.

        It irritates me because MJ is much more expensive and I’d love to try to help reduce costs.

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          15 hours ago

          Maybe you could lie and tell a new GP, that you have some bad side effects from MJ

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            That’s always a bad idea. That’s part of your medical records, and could influence future options when your health changes. Say you’re I’m hospital for something pancreas related, and they need to use something to manage your blood sugar long enough to get your body working right again. If you say that you’ve poorly tolerated a drug, they’ll deprioritze not only that drug, but ones similar to it, in favor of ones that you’ve tolerated or haven’t had at all, whether or not the original drug is a better choice.

            I’m all for navigating a complex system with created data when it’s necessary, but you really, really only want to do it when there aren’t other options. And, as much as it sucks, the drug they’re on is often better for the reason they’re on it instead of others. Lying to switch back would be detrimental to their overall health

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                No, would be. I chose the word for a reason. That reason being that the drugs in question and the reasons they’re prescribed would absolutely, 100% lead to issues if changed by deceit.

                You don’t fuck with shit that moderates your blood sugar without careful consideration, and they titration on/off.

                Those issues may or may not be major, but even minor changes to blood sugar and a1c away from targets cause accumulated problems. This isn’t hypothetical. Treatment of “borderline” diabetes in specific (as well as full diabetes, obviously) is a fairly careful balance. Just switching between something like metformin and ones of the injectables is a step to be taken with careful consideration.

                There are hypothetical situations in which lying to your doctor to manipulate which drugs you get becomes a possible health risk rather than a certain one, but it’s still fucking stupid, and it’s stupid to recommend anyone do so. Diabetes ain’t one of them.

                With ozempic vs mounjaro, the less selective (or more general, if you prefer) action of mounjaro has concrete benefits to a1c control, and if your doctor is switching you, there’s a reason. Lying interferes with best practices, period; lying about something that’s as fiddly and risky as diabetes, well, it’s like wu-tang.

                Just so you know, if you’re going to *fix shit, you might want to know what the fuck you’re talking about. That goes double when the person you think you’re correcting has a background in medicine. Don’t be a douche, in other words.

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                  Don’t be a douche, in other words.

                  Don’t be a douche with insults.

                  OP was using ozempic before without problems, that’s why I proposed that.

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            I think lying to your GP is a bad path to take. The clinical pathways exist for a reason.

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            14 hours ago

            I’d rather not tbh, I may or may not have taken the 5 Buddhist precepts. Anyway I am losing weight on MJ, albeit very slowly so when I raised the subject my GP told me not to be impatient and he’s probably right, it’s not a race.

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      10 hours ago

      So fuckin put down the fuckin fork and jog you fat fuck. Your diabetes is fuckin curable and is not chronic. It is a symptom of being fuckin fat and lazy. Every single dollar spent on researching cures for being fat is a dollar taken away from the research for curing type 1 diabetes. You know the kind you get as a child and spend your entire life building around avoiding hypoglycemia. The kind that up until the most recent clinical trials was chronic (uncurable). Mean while the fat fucks of the world cant be bothered to put down the carbs and jog so they need another drug to do the running and dieting for them.

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      It’s not about being fucked. As with all drugs there are those that will abuse it but GLP-1s have been shown to have physical effects that reduce food noise and make people feel fuller faster and for longer.

      Have you ever eaten a meal and immediately afterward one of your first thoughts is what’s the next meal going to be? Or maybe you’ve felt satisfied, or even full but then that one food item you happen to have pops into your mind and you can’t get it out until you have some? That’s food noise.

      The feeling fuller faster and longer is crucial because some peoples digestive systems respond to food intake very slowly making it easy and common to overeat. Or process food too quickly so they feel hunger sooner than others.

      Combine the medication with improved habits and suddenly it’s much easier to lose weight. If your eating habits and intake doesn’t change then the medications aren’t going to cause weight loss magically.