• Haley@lemmus.org
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    14 hours ago

    And people who have an issue with this are called luddites

    Absolute clown show

    • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      They confuse us with legitimate technophobes.

      My stepmother was a technophobe. She read articles about school shootings in the US, and thought if I got addicted to video games like Quake, I’ll be buying a machine gun from the black market, then end up as a murderer. Yes, she also had a moral panic about drug use, all while she was a borderline alcoholic. The farce in it was that while I wasn’t allowed to play any Quake games, there was no harm in Unreal games, which arguably are better. The tragedy in it was that she tried her best to steer me away from computers, giving me some disadvantage in college, also she lied to the doctors about my first seizure to make it seem like it was due to the computer, which lead to the doctors not doing tests besides EEG and strobe lights. Once social media rolled out, she somewhat changed her mind on the subject, though she was still ignorant enough to think “software developer” and “CNC programmer” are the same, and almost got me a job at a local factory (she feared that if I lived on Budapest for a bit longer, I’d get some lung disease, because big city equals bad air).

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          5 hours ago

          She’s dead, and I don’t know how to feel about it, especially as she abused my brother even harder than me.

          • Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Yeah apparently you’d think there be some closure or something but it seems that’s not how it works. Keep in there, and try to forget about the whole ordeal, that’s what I’m trying anyways, living with my demons. Works. Cheers.

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      13 hours ago

      We’ve been told historical lies. People who have an issue with this are like Luddites, but that’s because the Luddites were justified too!

      They weren’t against technology; they were against it being used to abuse and exploit them as workers.

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        12 hours ago

        I’ve only heard that term being used to insult, that’s actually a real thing?

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          12 hours ago

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddites

          The Luddites were members of a 19th-century movement of English textile workers who protested the usage of certain types of automated machinery owing to their concerns relating to worker pay, labour savings, child labour, working conditions, and output quality. They often destroyed said machines in organised raids. Members of the group referred to themselves as Luddites, self-described followers of “Ned Ludd”, a legendary weaver whose name was used as a pseudonym in threatening letters to mill owners and government officials.

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            History is written by the victors, and the luddites lost. That’s why they’re maligned as backwards idiots who didn’t want tech to succeed.

            They weren’t stupid. They knew precisely what was going to happen, and did their best to stop it. Generally they took care to target only machines as their goal wasn’t to harm people but to remain employed, and have money to survive with. Naturally there were exceptions, and sometimes people did get hurt.

            But then, the bourgeoisie enacted law to prevent this where destroying mechanical looms became punishable by… oh let’s see…

            The act, as passed, made the destruction of mechanised looms […] a capital felony (and hence a crime punishable by death).

            Right! Death! Destruction of company property became punishable by death.

            And people did die. Children died. Mind you, back then workers were anyone capable of working, and they had no rights. They didn’t vote for the people who passed this act; workers weren’t supposed to have a voice, and so the only recourse was rebellion.

            This didn’t stop things immediately, there’s quite a lot of really cool worker history here, but eventually the government sent in the military and couple that with nothing really changing despite widespread rebellion, the luddite movement fizzled out.

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          10 hours ago

          I’ve never heard it used as an insult. How is it even supposed to be offensive? “Har har you’re a person who doesn’t like tech”?

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            Less of “you’re a person who doesn’t like tech” and more “you’re not with the times/are scared of the future”… which is pretty close to some messaging from clankers.