• MurrayL@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    There’s a similar incentive to this Windows 11 one, but for macOS. Yikes.

    Not sure why that warrants a yikes; macOS is far more usable than Windows 11. I’d go so far as to call it downright pleasant in comparison.

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      4 months ago

      I wouldn’t say so. PowerToys and WSL are absolutely incredible tools for advanced users.

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      4 months ago

      Maybe everyone has their biases, but MacOS is often terrible in comparison to Windows, at least in my experience. Hell simply things like snapping windows appropriately MacOS absolutely is trash at still.

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        4 months ago

        Different workflow, macOS does not expect you to snap windows. I’m not 100% familiar with the macOS workflow, but I know it’s different.

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          4 months ago

          That’s the issue. IMHO. A desktop environment should not dictate how the user use it. That’s just stupid.

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            4 months ago

            You realize you can change it right? Macs aren’t locked down at all, you can configure anything you want.

            Mine works very similar to windows (I think, haven’t used windows in ages), where you drag to the edge/top for full screen or split screen.

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              4 months ago

              Not locked down at all? I’d be surprised if you can even change the wallpaper. :D

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                  4 months ago

                  The first Mac I used was actually a Macintosh with a black and white screen. I don’t remember the exact model. We also had iMac G3 in school and later modern iMacs at work. My wife is also a Mac owner and has worked with them.

                  I’m no way an Apple expert in any way, shape or form. However. I do know enough about them to know that they’re ridiculously locked down to the point that you can barley call yourself an owner of your own system.

                  With that said. Apple computers are popular, so it’s apparently a winning concept for some, but it’s not something for me.

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    4 months ago

    I’ve been forced to use windows for some propriety software during uni. I got a laptop from IT with higher specs than my old one and:

    1. It runs worse than my old shitty laptop
    2. It boots up slower than my old shitty laptop
    3. The battery icon was missing from the taskbar for some ungodly reason (I had to get IT to force an update)
    4. The internet it gets is way worse than my old shitty laptop. I do not know why

    So yeah I’m not using Windows 11 ever again

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      4 months ago

      I use windows 11 at work. I run solidworks, which is a 3D CAD/modeling program so my work computer is reasonably powerful with a decent chunk of RAM.

      My laptop from 2020 uses mint. It’s faster, although I havent tried to use solidworks on it because I’d have no idea where to start on getting that to run.

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    4 months ago

    For someone used to desktop Linux, where respect for the user, consistency, customisability, and performance are still held in high regard, Windows 11 feels like an endless string of punches in the face.

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      respect for the user, consistency, customisability,

      Customizability, absolutely. But Linux has a distinct lack of respect for users (from a GUI perspective) and consistency. Customizability is frequently in direct conflict with consistency. Different distros have different GUI’s. The apps in the distros use different toolkits for their development which yields wildly inconsistent GUI’s inside the programs.

      • Girl Named ZERO (she/her)@piefed.zeromedia.vip
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        Whoa, different developers making entirely different projects might do things differently? That’s unfathomable!

        I can’t believe that Discord and Steam and Firefox have different UI’s on Linux! Oh, they’re also different on windows and MacOS.

        It’s almost like any app on any operating system is going to have a different gui!

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    I’m gonna ask a dumb question here and hope for a not dumb answer. When the author says “I know UI consistency has been a dirty word ever since the web and then iOS rose to prominence”, what exactly are they referring to?

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      Best guess : Web interfaces are known for being inconsistent because they don’t follow any particular OS-specific design language. And I’ve seen people complaining about MacOS being really inconsistent, especially in its use of menu icons (what an essay!), and I’ve seen some people complain the bad UI practices come from iOS.

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        Going further down the rabbit hole, most software now, if not bundled with the OS, is produced 3rd parties who often have their own established brand and design language.

        It used to be if you were making an app for Windows, you somewhat tried to use the existing design language for your app. Nowadays if you’re a big company you want your interface to be consistent no matter what is it’s running on, so you set your own rules.

        Linux still has this as well, but its less prominent because of the general ethos of trying to create an app to do one thing and do it well. Things are shifting as big companies jump on the Linux train though, who knows what it’ll look like in 10 years.