In an online discussion post, Alcorn State University history professor Dr. Jason Gibson posed a question that represented part of his students’ midterm. It was about the…

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    17 hours ago

    I see the same thing in the software industry. Programming is something where it’s perfectly common to need to have cheat sheets at your desk and reference the documentation regularly. But freshly graduated students think that’s cheating. They’re convinced they need to memorise all aspects of a programming language and it’s standard library. The amount of new information I take in every day, it would be impossible to remember everything. The real skill is information retrieval, being able to look up what you need to know when you need it.

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      In the online art community, “tracing” means you’re a bad artist and cheating, people get doxed and bullied offline for tracing.

      For real artists, using tools to trace real-life objects and photographs is normal, and has been since medieval times. Not the photograph part of course, but real life objects can be traced or copied using various methods, and it’s perfectly acceptable to do so.

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        I’m sure you could probably dig up an exception or two, but by and large “using tools to trace real-life objects and photographs” isn’t an accurate portrayal of the sort of thing that gets people flak online. Every tracing scandal I’ve seen on tumblr is an artist essentially plagiarising work from another artist in the same community.

        It’s the difference between “my character is shooting a bow in this panel, let’s find some references for archery poses so I can get it right” versus “oh hey that’s a cool picture someone drew of an archer, I think I’ll trace it and fill in my character’s face and colours instead and post it online and pretend like I made it all myself without crediting the person who actually did 99% of the creative process”

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          I’m not sure about Tumblr because I don’t have an account, but I have seen people get bullied online (various platforms) for tracing their own photographs for example.

          I’m not talking about references. I obviously don’t have a screenshot of every single interaction I’ve ever had in online art communities. You’re just going to have to believe that I have no malicious intent in making my post.

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      Yep. I always thought open book tests are the best.

      Otherwise if you read it but can’t memorize it, gl.

      If you did the work or can find the answer quickly without having done the work /studied, you’ll do okay in the real world too, because you have those skills to figure out the correct answer quickly.

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          Some professions, like ER doctor, require a high level of memorization. But that’s also part of medical training.

          Others don’t need that level of memorization, even other kinds of doctors. I’ve seen medical specialists in private practice leave the exam room to look up symptoms to help make a diagnosis. And I think that’s a good idea, since only TV doctors can “know” everything about incredibly rare diseases.