God you’re dumb
No you.
You’re almost cyber terrorizing Lemmy!
Do I instill fear, panic, or physical disruption of your critical infrastructure?
Yes they are. Read the full snippet, not just the highlighted bit. The “Its primary intent is […] To further a terrorist group organization’s objectives”
What’s your point? How does that absolve the action out of this definition. Speak it out.
and terrorized Russian citizens and nationals" are in slightly different categories.
Are they?
Only the magnitude is (and yes, a lot) different, but category is very much the same.
If I understood correctly, many Russians are or were in favour of the war, which is hardly surprising while they’re not the ones suffering the cost. Even when they do, a populace under the impression that the cost is some sacrifice for a good or necessary war can be quite resilient. And even if they lose faith in the war, there is a certain amount of patience and tolerance.
Not quite. Russians for the most part just want to be left the fuck alone. The ones that do support it only do because TV is their only source of information and their support is limited to calling foreign leaders names in their kitchens and shitposting on facebook and whatsapp to their information deprived peers. When the push comes to shove they would only ever accept the duty if they were too lazy to find a way out. So most people on the front line are either criminals or gamblers who don’t really have a choice.
For people with a little spare time that might not be able to contribute directly, it’s a low-barrier way to be at least a bit of a nuisance, amplifying the perceived impact of the shortage in ways propaganda can’t so easily handwave away.
I feel like it does the opposite by diluting a definitive victory:
Oil refinery got blown up which led to fuel shortages - “fucking Putin and his cronies can’t keep their shit together, couldn’t spare an AA from one of their villas to protect critical infrastructure, fuck them”.
I’m late to work because I had to spend 10 more minutes going to a different station because someone posted misinformation - “fucking Ukrainians trying to ruin my day again, fuck them, maybe Putin was onto something…”.
The difference is: one action is directed by the government at a government, the other - at the people by the people.
By encouraging them to keep trying to be a pain in the ass of imperial aggressors, you might recruit even the reluctant, the lazy, the cowardly to become a sort of “digital guerilla”.
What I think really happens is that people who were assholes just gotten an excuse to be assholes. I’d like to be proven wrong, but I’m yet to see anything actually good come out of NAFO and the likes. So far they’ve only managed to turn quite a few anti-war Russians against directly supporting Ukraine, by means of afforementioned scam calls, harrassment of opposition leaders and of people in neutral countries. It’s especially appalling to see coming from able-bodied young men who clearly fled conscription, and I’d like to counter the argument by saying that we shouldn’t encourage nor cheer laziness and pure national hatred. After all, they don’t have to go to the meat grinder, there are quite a lot of opportunities far behind the frontlines, I honestly would’ve probably gone myself if I were allowed and not for the severe consequences of it.
This is indeed terrible, but do you imply that everything Ukraine does now is fair game because of it? Would you also cheer them on if they openly used chemical weapons, tortured POW’s, and terrorized Russian citizens and nationals?
Anything that disrupts the aggressor’s will or ability to continue their aggression is fair game.
Does it, though? Lived in Russia most of my life and not once I saw army vehicles at a gas station. Pretty sure they have their own fuel distribution network.
Eh, I find it petty. The fact that there are gas shortages is already enough of a blow. But this to me sounds to be as much “warfare” as scam calling Russian grandmas to convince them to sell their apartments and donate to AFU. Just gives Russian people even more reasons to blame Ukraine, less reasons to trust Ukrainians, and making the life of (surprisingly unclear amount) of them living in Russia even harder. I’m rather dumbfounded at why people are seemingly in support of such actions, as I don’t see how it could in any way be beneficial for Ukraine. Best case scenario is couple of Petrovichs are late to work at their drone factories. Worst case are mass arrests of Ukrainians and pro-Ukraine Russians who blew their cover for nothing.
Does anyone here see it as “warfare”? More like just being shitters.
It can be. I won’t post anymore AI slop screenshots, but I’m sure you are grown up enough to be able to type “review bomb legal” into your search engine of choice and find for yourself.
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