I suspect propagandists would weaponize the ‘weakest’ commonly utilized option against the cause.

one example that comes to mind is the ‘from the river to the sea’ slogan; it’s a call for equal rights across historic palestine, but gets labelled as a call for genocide by detractors.

changing the slogans doesn’t help because the target isn’t the words, it’s the underlying demand. propagandists will weaponize whatever language you use if the politics behind it threaten them.

the way i see it conceding the rhetorical terrain just means constantly retreating to increasingly watered down language while the actual demand gets no closer to being heard.

though with less content advocating for the literal murder of every person currently living inside of a Western civilization).

“Do you want to see extremist content, including calls for murder?”

‘death to america’ is a hyperbolic idiom meaning an end to american imperial dominance, not a wish to harm american people. as an american myself i say it all the time. i want to see an end to the system, not the people living under it. ‘marg bar amrika’ has been a protest chant for 50 years and has been deliberately mistranslated by propagandists to demonize dissent.

what good is ‘america’ to the people it bombs, imprisons and impoverishes anyway?

why are you taking it so personally when I say “fuck those bots”?

a significant portion of the .ml user base are either russian trolls, or russian-sympathizing trolls. I wasn’t “wishing anyone who disagrees with me would get drone-striked.” I was saying “I hope these drone-strikes targeting troll-farming datacenters take a noticable portion of troll accounts offline.”

Your usage appears interchangeable.

I find the speed with which you jump to dehumanization interesting

oh i’m not a nazi, but i’m not convinced about you

literally indistinguishable from a chud post lmao

you just told me to go to china lmao, pick a lane

you tick off all the boxes sorry babe

you seem very invested in defending america for someone who isn’t from here; absolutely subservient behavior

lol you even post like a chud

why would i go there, rather work to make america less shitty

that is why people don’t like the US, all the countries its invaded

western fascism has plenty of indigneous roots, the amount that russia spends is a drop in the bucket. it is a convenient way for you to avoid examining how capitalism produces fascism domestically. everything can just get blamed on your state adversary and anyone pushing back must clearly just be under foreign influence

the only people left in this thread seem to be you and your brigade of .mls anyway, so I see little point in continuing to try reasoning with you.

god forbid we use the website we’re on, clearly anything opposed to you must be coordinated foreigners

then you’re not engaging in good faith.

you weren’t engaging in good faith from the start, you literally were calling all of us russian bots and hoping our ‘datacenter’ gets drone striked.

So no, I see right through that BS dissembling as it’s patently transparent.

you are just defending your preferred type of authoritarian regime and cannot comprehend when people supporting the lesser evil in a fucked up situation end up opposing you.

the original point that guy made wasn’t pro-russia, it was anti-unipolar dominance. it’s not even an uncommon anti-imperialist position and has nothing to do with defending whatever ‘the kremlin’ does.

you then jumped to calling him a russian for saying that ‘western democracy’ is a bourgeois dictatorship evolving into open fascism.

so in defense of your preferred hegemon you jump to dehumanizing him. you already have been by calling everyone on my server bots and making veiled wishes for users to get drone struck. you really seem incapable of self-reflection. certainly not beating the allegations about where ‘western democracy’ is headed with defenders like you.

i was just noting how quickly you jump to dehumanizing your political opponents

it was direct evidence for my original point

And since you’re trying so hard to defend that, I can only assume you’re the same.

you seem to be looking for any excuse to dehumanize me, just an observation.

how convenient, feel free to edit your previous comment.

Expecting me to do it for you is exactly the kind of petty wannabe authoritarian bullshit I would expect from your instance

you seemed so offended by me, i am just trying to spare you the aggravation

And as you continue to frame my criticism of russia as simply “blaming foreigners

such nuanced criticism:

you tick off all the boxes sorry babe

they are in my display name

And as you continue to frame my criticism of russia as simply “blaming foreigners

you framed it that way with your own words

you should block me so we never have to interact again

you don’t seem to see that the issue i have is with blaming foreigners for your own country being fascist.

Whatever you need to tell yourself, big boi

i use she/her, asshole

not beating the allegations

they’re literal fascists. (And unlike you I don’t throw that term around as a cheap insult devoid of context or meaning)

you absolutely do though. you act like a nationalist posturing that you’re on the left. incapable of criticism of your own government without needing to filter it through as ‘foreigners ruining our glorious democracy’

Okay if you just want to be dense then this conversation can be over.

i accept your surrender

Found the venn diagram that describes that guy, central overlap