This comic is kinda old already, but still stays relevant.

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    2 months ago

    Russia’s economy is smaller than California’s, yet we still pretend that they’re a massive threat so that we can continue buying aircraft carriers. Graphic should have USA fish about 10x bigger than Russia fish.

    Also, needs Iran and China fishes.

    … and the opposing fishes should be shown buying Russia’s oil with their frowny faces. “I can’t believe that you’re making me buy your oil, you are deplorable. Here’s 50 billion dollars. Jerk. You’re a jerk.”

    • MrNobody@quokk.au
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      And we need all the fish on the right giving missiles to Israel and Israel as it slaughters a little Palestinian fish and they should be sucking off America as they both try to kill the Iran fish.

      • jimmy90@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        2 months ago

        as the little palestine fish gets dp’d by iran and qatar but is loving it and they get more food and reconstruction aid from the UN fish than anyone else per fish egg but they use iti to build tunnels

        and not for shelter of the eggs. thus cursing the eggs to an untimely death by using their homes as human shields

        i guess that the sad part of the cartoon

  • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Don’t like the implication that european nations are just hapless little fishies hounded by predator. This is a large geopolitical war between economic blocs. The Europeans have agency and actively pushed boundaries as well. They aren’t victims of a mindless aggressor attacking them out of pure instinct. Both sides of this conflict have distinct political-economic motives that led to this war. Nation’s are rational actors.

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      2 months ago

      Yeah and you shouns very much like a paid Putin shill who “just saying” that other countries are bad too!

      Fuck Putin

      Fuck pooh bear Xi

      Fuck trump

      Fuck Netanyahu

      But right now, most of all, fuck Russia. Until Russia has a democracy, fuck all about that country

      • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        I wish I were paid to talk about this shit. I do it because seeing people reduce international conflicts to simplified narratives like “country bad” or “leader evil” is infuriating. Nations are complex political organs governed by their current base material conditions that have developed over the course of their history, the state of their internal class conflict, and the resulting overarching ideology created by these factors. They are not controlled by the whims of an individual but rather the economic interests of their ruling class.

        Russia is not controlled by Vladimir Putin

        China is not controlled by Xi Jinping

        The US is not controlled by Donald Trump

        Israel is not controlled by Benjamin Netanyahu

        Geopolitics is not a story played out by great actors. It is a web of evolving dialectical relationships expressed through the actions of individuals and rooted in the contradictory material interests of economic classes.

        • nyctre@piefed.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 months ago

          You’re exactly right! Blaming this all on putin is silly. Everyone with a bit of history knowledge knows that Russia’s always been an imperialist country. Before the invasion of Ukraine there was the annexation of Crimea. Before that it was Georgia, Moldova, Chechnya, all the neocolonialism in Africa. Before that…well…you don’t become the largest country in the world by sitting on your ass… they’ve been doing this constantly since the 16th century or so.

          • pinto@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            2 months ago

            Russia’s been invading countries with Europe for centuries, but somehow now when they do it, it’s actually good.

            Russia’s scramble for Africa was good because Marx said so, just don’t look into Marx’s actual writings.

      • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        I said Europe for a reason but Canada is part of NATO no? NATO is effectively the economic bloc I am referring to here so increasing tensions with Russia at least happened with Canada’s acceptance. Regardless Canada is not genuinely threatened by Russia and their support for the war in Ukraine is primarily along geopolitical lines. As a rule Nation’s do not act out of sympathy for oppressed people, look at palestine for example, so it can’t truly be argued that Canada supports Ukraine out of moral concern.

        • Montagge@lemmy.zip
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          2 months ago

          So Russia had to invade Ukraine because NATO won’t trade with Russia even though they do?

          • ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            0
            ·
            2 months ago

            Sort of, NATO was practicing an method of economic and physical encirclement intended to suffocate the Russian economy. I don’t personally think this was feasible but Russia has for about 2 decades and made their stance clear on this matter. If NATO continued on this path it would lead to war. Russia has stated this repeatedly and high ranking members of NATO have as well. Everyone involved knew this but to NATO’s credit, they pushed those boundaries for a very long time and Russia never actually did anything about it. Mostly because it was not economically or militarily feasible.

            Ukraine was the final red line though. Sure, morally speaking, one nation should not be able to limit the treaties another nation decides to make or coalitions they try to join but geopolitics is not governed by morality. It was stupid to believe that Russia would just accept Ukraine’s entrance into NATO which is why no one in power genuinely believed this. Russia was not going to accept an alliance that allowed for a military buildup so close to their key infrastructure and ballistic missiles within a few minutes of Moscow. Russia fully understands that NATO is an imperial organ and necessarily a threat to its existence as a decently sized economy largely independent of it and brimming with natural resources.

            Russia didn’t “have to” invade Ukraine but if it didn’t it would effectively look like rolling over to their largest geopolitical enemy and, strictly speaking, put them in a strategically compromised position.

            This doesn’t make it morally right or a great thing that I just fucking love but in the world of real politik it is rational. They weren’t forced into this action but were put in a position where not doing it would be strategically untenable in the long term. The Russian ruling class is simply protecting their economic interests.

            You don’t have to be Russia’s number one fan to understand this conflict as more complex than the western propaganda narrative that Russia is just an evil imperialist taking Ukraine because it wants to.

            • fake@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              0
              ·
              2 months ago

              Sort of, NATO was practicing an method of economic and physical encirclement intended to suffocate the Russian economy.

              What the fuck are you even talking about? EU trade with Russia was at an all time high at the start of 2022.

              It was stupid to believe that Russia would just accept Ukraine’s entrance into NATO

              Again, what the fuck are you talking about. Ukraine declared its neutral status in 2010 and again in 2014, stating that they were not seeking NATO membership. That position only changed after the annexation of Crimea.

              Stop writing walls of nonsense on shit you clearly have no idea about.

              • pinto@sh.itjust.works
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                2 months ago

                Stop writing walls of nonsense on shit you clearly have no idea about.

                But they said they know the material conditions and stuff, so shut up and let Russia do what they want to civilians.