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      2 days ago

      They’re already doing the verification and it’s not going away. I definitely prefer a better way to do it

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        That “it’s not going away” attitude is the fucking problem…

        We should fucking fight it, either by good or by bad, because that defeatism is what they want, they want us to think that TINA, then, little by little, force ourselves to do things that at first would seem unacceptable to us.

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          But in this case there’s already a lot worse system in place. Why not get a better system while also fighting the verification thing?

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            No, get rid of the bad system and be done with it. No compromise. This isn’t something that needs to exist at all.

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              I sincerely wish you luck in your endeavor, but I’m not very optimistic about it so in the meanwhile, better system would be better

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                  Age checks are already widely adopted, using a lot worse system. This new system that’s better is being implemented

                  So no luck needed for that at least

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              I mean I’d rather get crumbs than nothing? lol

              Just seems pragmatic to me

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                Begging for crumbs does NOT mean getting crumbs.

                Usually when you beg for crumbs the power brokers understand you to be an inwardly defeated person and they spit you in the face instead of negotiating with you.

                This is not about getting.

                This is about what you aim for to begin with.

                If you go to a shooting range and delibarately aim for a 1 instead of for a 10 it does not make you more likely to hit a 1. It makes no sense to sabotage your own aim before you even squeeze the trigger.

                You think if your aim is modest, the powers that be will take pity on you? What a foolish notion.

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                  I’m getting the id system I was hoping for though. I’m getting my crumbs.

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                    I’m getting the id system I was hoping for though. I’m getting my crumbs.

                    If you are satisfied, why the pro-crumb advocacy here?

                    No, no, no, you are trying to persuade people here to settle for crumbs. That means your agenda has either not been achieved, or is on a shaky ground. Which explains the work you are doing.

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              I’m pretty indifferent to there being age gates. I hate the shitty implementation though, I’d never sent my id to random sites

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              Wouldn’t that be the best system? This system is a lot better but better just means better than the other thing

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                  Slightly better is still better, but imo a site knowing just an age range (18+) of someone they don’t know compared to them having a picture of my id with all my info (name, dob, social security number, face, all that) is a lot, a lot better imo