• grue@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Mac OS is just NeXTStep (i.e. UNIX) with a candy coating. It’s annoyingly proprietary (especially these days, compared to the early OS X era) but it’s fine for a work machine.

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      2 days ago

      It vaguely looks like Unix until you start to look at the directories (which aren’t standard any more), try to read the logs (which are fucking useless and look like what Windows outputs), or dig at anything beyond the shell. Then you see that they’ve completely scrambled the system. It’s infuriating.
      I once got an Apple laptop around the time they switched away from Intel chips, I lasted about four months with it before running back to KDE. I hated that thing with a passion. And don’t get me started on the Apple software.

      Maybe it got better since, maybe not, doesn’t matter, I won’t get near one of those things again.

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        Just a little fun fact: POSIX does not specify any standard filesystem directories in the way that the FreeDesktop Filesystem Hierarchy Standard (FHS) does for Linux and Unix-likes. MacOS remains a fully POSIX-certified Unix system.

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            They had a really bad POSIX subsystem that was coded by an intern, so they could say “We’re compliant” and get some sweet government contracts.

            NCommander made a lot of videos about it on YouTube and had to patch the hell out of it to even get the most basic programs to run.

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        I once got an Apple laptop around the time they switched away from Intel chips, I lasted about four months with it before running back to KDE.

        That’s well into the time that they were getting worse. They were good in the PowerPC G3/4/5 era, when they were doing things like making laptops that could have the RAM upgraded without even needing a tool. They were also trying to be taken more seriously for business, so they had stuff like the XServe and cared about scripting (putting effort into Applescript/Automator APIs for their apps) and such.

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          The hardware was kind of ok, it’s really with the software that I had issues.

          As an aside I tried to configure their email client for a friend a year or so ago and I’ve never seen such a convoluted piece of software. I thought accessibility was their thing, this was astoundingly Byzantine. Never seen anything like it before or since (in that class of software).