This is getting out of hand.
Not my garbage truck
My garbage truck can’t handle anything but regular trash, can’t afford the trucks with the arm and often can’t even show up on trash day - they’re late a day ~30% of the time.
Perks of living in a poor area, I guess.
Our code enforcement are two guy who are supposed to cover 1,400 miles…
The American defaultism is so fucking tiring, it’s such a constant “here’s this thing that’s only a thing in the US but it’s written like it’s global”. There needs to be a rule of at least having (US) in the title for posts that use whatever title they link to.
Isn’t one of the most common rules in news communities that the title must be exactly the same as the title of the article? That’s why this happens to you. News sources don’t always say “oh, yeah, this is just for the US, BTW.” In their headlines.
Rules have a purpose to serve. They can be changed and allow certain tags.
Or let’s say we leave the title and make it a [US] flair or marker or however that could be named. Not sure if lemmy already has that functionality.
Just saying there are possible solutions to this.
Our garbage trucks already have been for years… I learned that when I got an “overloaded bin” fine, with a video of my neighbor’s bin being dumped as “evidence.” I had to do a dispute and make them reverse it, not because I care about a dollar or whatever insignificant fine amount, but because, like… fuck off with that shit, you know?
That’s enraging.
I’d consider organizing a campaign to leave bricks/debris on the sides of roads on pickup days and throw their garbage on the front door step of whichever gov’t body made that decision.
Where I am there is considerable legal precedent preventing surveillance like that.
Yes, absolutely fight for principles if you have the time and energy to. That was messed up.
Non-yahoo link: https://theautowire.com/2026/07/15/your-garbage-truck-is-about/
Not to be that smug guy who drives old cars, but I can fairly safely gaurenteed my vehicles, from '84, '85, '93, '06, and '07 are not spying on me.
The problem with old cars is that, eventually, they will die, and all we’ll have is the surveillance boxes, no alternative.
This is part of why it’s so vital to keep the fight for surveillance-free vehicles, even if, for a brief moment, you are still able to avoid part of this monstrosity.
Yeah but if everyone else’s is, you’re getting tracked too. Just like Facebook does. It’s dogshit.
I’ve said this in other threads, but you are gonna see the value of old shitboxes skyrocket as they will be the last haven of privacy on the road… Until they make it illegal to drive any vehicle that doesnt record you constantly via audio/video, require a breathalyzer to start, plus 2 blood samples, a piss sample, and a Semen sample/Cervical scraping before allowing you to turn the key and enter the roadway/
Government endorsed mastrubation? Sign me up!
No, it will be via cold, unpleasant, mechanical prostate electroshock.
I already said “sign me up”, you don’t have to sell me on it.
Some people might be into that…
Jesus would cover his eyes, if his hands didnt have holes in them.
Why do you have 5 cars?
Because I’m a gearhead and I like them.
I would’ve hoped that was obvious… So, to be more specific, if that’s what you were asking:
- '84 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale
- This was my grandpa’s, so it has sentimental value.
- No one preserved these, so it’s also super unique.
- I’ve always loved the old land yachts, there’s nothing like driving a couch down the freeway.
- '85 Honda Shadow VT500C
- It’s a good little motorcycle. Reliable, cute, and slow enough that I’m less likely to kill myself on it.
- '93 Subaru Loyale 4x4
- This is probably the least rational, considering I own another station wagon, but I really like it. It’s easy to work on, super practical, fuel efficient, and comically slow. I take it offroading and camping often. It also isn’t worth much and doesn’t cost much to keep going.
- '06 BMW Z4 3.0i
- It’s a sports car. It’s fun, and probably one of the better deals in the category these days.
- '07 Volvo XC70
- I’ve converted this into an RV with an office, bed, and kitchen. I go on multi-week-long trips in it without needing to take time off of work.
- It’s also been heavily modified by myself to be quite offroad capable.
- My small community of viewers on YouTube also love this thing, so I can’t really sell it haha.
I’ll also mention that all of these vehicles combined are worth like 10-15k, which is signifigantly less than if I owned a single “nice” vehicle, and I haven’t had to go into debt to own any of them.
I’ll also also mention that, even as a gearhead, I generally agree with the fuck cars movement and whatnot. I want better public transit and such to get those that’d rather not be driving off the roads. Plus, driving in cities suck, I’m relieved to leave my car at home or a park ‘n’ ride and take transit into town. For how “free” America supposedly is, people sure don’t have the freedom to not own a car.
That ended up being rather lengthy, but what’d you expect asking someone about their hobby…
Will be checking out your YT channel. Thanks bro.
- '84 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale
LLM Alliteration detected :
“That’s the announcement. It isn’t the story.”
Why can’t you all MFs just write a piece without these, like typed by your own hands. Also is about an Ai surveillance piece.
What alliteration are you talkimg about?
Alliteration is the repetition of syllable-initial consonant sounds between nearby words, or of syllable-initial vowels if the syllables in question do not start with a consonant. It is often used as a literary device. A common example is “Peter Piper picked a peck of pickled peppers”…
That’s the announcement. It isn’t the story.
AI writing detected in an article about the evils of AI. It’s like rain on your wedding day.
this article sounds like AI too, i am going crazy
…can yards and house fronts for code violations: overgrown grass, illegal dumping, peeling paint…
I’m sure nobody’s going to get outrageous fines due to an AI’s false positives.
Why the fuck is "overgrown grass’ illegal?
Who wants to live in these places
I genuinely hope it does nothing but drown people in false positives, to the point where the people who put this idea forward have to leave the state under witness protection.
Unfortunately, it’s probably just going to end up fucking a bunch of innocent people over, and the people who put the idea forward will take a nice vacation before returning to their life as normal.
So that they can get pictures of license plates tied to addresses to sell to repo companies so that the tow truck can come get your Hellcat.
Obviously the reader should confirm this for their own jurisdiction but there is no law against either removing or covering up your car’s plate(s) as long as you’re parked on your own private property. Just gotta remember to uncover them before you head out because that is illegal.
Car covers are also an alternative if you’re a renter assuming you aren’t required to have a parking pass or plates visible for parking enforcement.
Anyone wanna build smart licence plate covers? Like it either rolls up or flips up to hide the plate.
Maybe actually have it just flip down your plate when parked to obscure it. I would say power tinting to obscure it but technically its illegal to cover it most places.
“Smart” in this context wasn’t as much of a thing back then, but The Transporter had a similar option.
I would ensure it’s impossible to activate it from inside the car. Otherwise, eventually someone might worry about you cheating toll booths.
(…actually sounds like in Texas they’re just banned outright?)
Interesting but I just meant flipping down not completely making it look like no plate. I would say tie it to the ignition/power button so when off it flips down or up depending on what is less obvious. Like some cars have a bump above the plate that would be less obvious going up meanwhile trucks have ledges or tow hitch that would make it less obvious flipping down.
It’s better a manual one, if a police officer stop you and they make you turn off the engine, you are now in trouble
Reminds me of one time when I was a child my dad got pulled over, I (unaware of what was going on) took my seat belt off.
Cop almost wrote a ticket for it.
The cop was def an asshole
there is no law against either removing or covering up your car’s plate(s) as long as you’re parked on your own private property.
Not inherently true- most places ban having “unregistered” vehicles on residential areas, and if they can’t see a plate when they’re looking to cause problems, they’re going to claim it’s unregistered and make it your problem.
Ah my neighbor battles this every year lol, they have to prove the vehicle is actually functional. It becomes more of a battle then you would think if you have the will to fight them…
What if I dont have a garbage truck?
The only way to stop or reverse this is to get conservative capitalists out of our government.
I mean aside from literal bloody revolution, which some people say is the only way. And, as much as this may be true, it will take a lot more than what has been happening so far to incite that sort of action, so the next actionable step is to vote for and support socialists to push back against the filthy rich and their corrupt cronies that infest our government at every level.
The only way to stop or reverse this is to get conservative capitalists out of our government.
So basically everyone including the Democratic Socialist Mayor of Seattle.
…so the next actionable step is to vote for and support socialists…
On the east Coast the formerly fiery Mamdani has gone silent on this issue since becoming Mayor.
I can find examples of this kind of thing from all over the United States. I’m using Mayors Wilson and Mamdani because they directly refute the idea that “Socialists” will stop this. They clearly will not.
Us paranoid tried to warn everyone back in the early 2000s
I remember watching Enemy of the State with Will Smith in 1998. That movie was so fucking ridiculous with cameras everywhere. Oh…
George Orwell warned us back in 1948.
You’re not wrong but more to the point I was trying to make is that the actual technology existed around that time, we started to see people abuse it, we warned others, snowden dropped documents on the NSAs effort and large datacenters and not many people batted an eye.
The problem with these, and all, automated systems that detect EVERYTHING is that current code enforcement hardly detects 0.1% of existing violations, by design. That’s how they roll. They only kick into action when somebody complains.
Think of speeding tickets - how easy would it be for our roadside ALPR systems to time your transit from point A to point B, calculate your minimum average speed to make the trip in that time, and mail you a citation when you’re over the posted speed limit? Not hard at all, but that’s not how speeding tickets roll in this country (and most others, too.) If they really wanted total enforcement, your car already knows when you’re speeding, it can already wirelessly tattle on you to roadside monitors, they could effect 100% citation coverage if they wanted to, but whoever tries that is comitting political suicide.
One of the reasons HOAs are such groaners is that the types of people who run for HOA president occasionally (not always) go in for this “100% enforcement” mentality and due to the utter apathy of HOA residents who can’t be bothered to depose their despot, they can persist in that mode for years. Last HOA I lived in had fearless leaders who “lived in the back” and hired an outside company to write upkeep violations, but only on houses in the front of the neighborhood.
When I lived in a big city with a code enforcement department instead of an HOA system, things went along for decades without much flap, the occasional citation on the really persistently bad violators - as things are expected to work, but then some new neighbors moved in and attended the city-neighborhood meeting and started chanting “just enforce the law, JUST ENFORCE THE LAW” and, so, code inspectors were sent to walk the neighborhood by foot and write every violation they could see from the street. Our 400 houses got more violations written up in one day than the entire city of 40,000 homes received in the prior year.
So, these systems that “observe 13,000 violations in a single week” need to chill out, turn the filters way way up and figure out what the 13 most important violations in the city are each MONTH and work with those property owners to get them fixed. Use the photo-scans to pre-screen citizen complaints, ensure that there’s even a problem worth sending an inspector for when the neighbor says “there’s been a junky car here up on blocks for the past 2 years and somebody needs to do something about it” the records can show whether that’s true, or a gross exaggeration before prioritizing which citizen calls get seen this week and which need to chill out and “wait their turn.”
On the one hand, yes, fully enforcing these things would be gross overpolicing.
On the other hand, the selective enforcement is, by design, a way to manufacture an excuse to harass and persecute minorities/undesirables.
The correct solution is to relax or abolish the laws themselves until they diminish to the point that fully enforcing them is reasonable.
the selective enforcement is, by design, a way to manufacture an excuse to harass and persecute minorities/undesirables.
Absolutely, and this is another thing that’s going to prevent “fair” algorithmic enforcement from happening.
The correct solution is to relax or abolish the laws themselves until they diminish to the point that fully enforcing them is reasonable.
I have always thought this, but I don’t get my jollies out of selectively “sticking it to” people different than me for the same things I get away with all the time. Apparently, a lot of our government, police, and voters do…
It is like work monitoring that can monitor every keystroke and trip to the bathroom. If you expect people to be 100% rule abiding, perfect and predictable I’ve got news for you. The people putting these systems into place would never stand for them being applied to them.
time your transit from point A to point B, calculate your minimum average speed to make the trip in that time, and mail you a citation when you’re over the posted speed limit?
Norway does this.
Norway does a lot of sensible things that seem impossible in the USA.
You’re not suggesting the automated mailing of speeding tickets based on average speed is reasonable, are you?
I know that Colorado does this as well. Probably other states in the USA do too. https://www.codot.gov/programs/speedenforcement
If it’s clearly posted, that’s fine - and appropriate in certain mountain pass situations.
If it’s a surprise when the fine arrives in the mail, that’s pure unadulterated evil.
There’s signs posted in advance that say something along the lines of “Speed Enforcement Camera Ahead”. The only reason they’d be a surprise is if you’re not paying attention to signage. They’re in the mountains, but I’ve mostly seen them out in the flat eastern parts of Colorado where the roads are mostly long straight stretches over flat terrain. Which makes sense, since that’s where it’s easy to speed.
Which makes sense, since that’s where it’s easy to speed.
Depends on how you look at “makes sense.” It’s easy to speed, it’s relatively safer to speed (except in blinding snow conditions when the cameras probably don’t work too well…) So, if “makes sense” is about maximizing revenue, then sure: more people will be breaking the law where the law itself makes less sense…
I’m fairly neutral on this, can you explain why it’s evil?
Pop up fines - impediment to free travel - arbitrary tax collection. I mean, if you want to go back to Roman times where any government officials you happen to meet can just grab you by the shoulder and “collect taxes for the emperor” because you happen to be within reach - you can call that “not evil” if you like. I call it regression of civilization.
And to clarify, we are talking about the automatic measurement of speed and issuance of speeding tickets?
I guess they won’t be satisfied until we are all wearing mechanical suits that will prevent us from doing anything “illegal!”
or have cameras in your own house monitoring your every move. like that dropout/collegehumor skit, where republicans have cameras in every move to monitor as a “thought” police.
Remember the stories about how wifi does a good job of telling where people are in the house? They might already be on that way.
That is just the start. Next: they want predictive AI to predict every aspect of your life.
After that, they will figure out how to manipulate the WiFi, to control your behavior subtly.
Then, comes make you do crimes, just to punish you for them.
they will figure out how to manipulate the WiFi
I don’t know where I am!
Whovians will understand. Prescient? ;-)
Or just electro shock collars
