• RiverRock@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    2 days ago

    “It’s not true but also it’s Russias fault for not just sitting back and doing nothing while ethnic Russians are slaughtered by Nazis on their border.”

    The lengths you people will go to DARVO an ethnic cleansing campaign by actual, seig heil-ass Nazis would have been shocking to me a few years ago, before I saw you all actively support another Holocaust.

    • caboose2006@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 day ago

      Yes, your numbers are not true. 14,000 ethnic Russians were not slaughter by Ukraine. 14,000 russian soldiers, separatist soldiers, Ukrainian soldiers, ethnic Ukrainian civilians, and ethnic Russian civilians were killed in total by both sides. That means Russia was also killing ethnic Russians in that total.

      And the second part also holds true. Zero casualties if not for Russia invading. They are completely separate points from each other. But you know that, you’re just disengenuous

        • caboose2006@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 hours ago

          I agree.

          While there’s definitely a nazi population in Ukraine, there’s also a significant one in Russia too. As well as a number of other countries, mine included. Is the solution military invasion of the US, Canada, Poland, Germany, Russia, the UK, etc… etc…? And if not those countries why is Ukraine singled out for special treatment?

          And before you say “these other countries weren’t slaughtering their own people” neither were nazis in Ukraine. My guess is your justification is another debunked RT talking point.

          • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            edit-2
            8 hours ago

            definitely a nazi population in Ukraine

            Yeah and this specific nazi population runs the government. And while I appreciate that we agree on there being nazis, the mainstream narrative until it became undeniable was that this is a Russian lie, one of many inconsistencies in western media coverage that makes me go hmmm.

            Is the solution military invasion of the US, Canada, Poland, Germany, Russia, the UK, etc… etc…?

            If an internal proletarian revolution proves unviable then yes, outside force might be required. Capitalist countries need to be liberated and deradicalized for the safety of all mankind.

            And if not those countries why is Ukraine singled out for special treatment?

            I apply the same standards to those other countries so this part doesnt apply. Nobody “gets” to be fascist, fascists just do fascist shit and the world either stops them or doesn’t. Laws and norms are polite fictions and the bare fact of it is that everyone alive “gets” to do whatever nobody else stops them from doing.

            And before you say “these other countries weren’t slaughtering their own people”

            They are. They constantly are. They slaughter 114,000 of us every year just with forced medical neglct alone. Poverty, hunger, the commodification of medical care, crushing debt, endless wars, pollution, climate destruction, social atomization, mass surveilance, mass incarceration, austerity, privatization, militarized police brutality, all of these things are forms of mass violence knowingly perpetrated on us by the small class of rich pedophiles who decided back in 2014 to hijack Ukraine and try to crack open Russia with it, and now they’re building camps for us too.

            • caboose2006@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              7 hours ago

              You failed to mention one thing. Russia is a fascist dictatorship. Yet you’re pro Russia invading Ukraine.

              That’s how I know you’re a brainwashed shill.

              And I’m not addressing the rest of your gish gallop.