The country of the Great Firewall actually making free and open computing possible in the World at a time were most supposed Democracies are closing it all down claiming it’s “for the sake of the children” or “to protect us from Terrorism” or some other thin self-serving excuse for expanding civil society surveillance, would truly be the ultimate role-reversal.
Billionaires love when you think you can only vote with your wallet. They have many, many more votes than you. Nvidia doesn’t give two shits about your wallet compared to the ones paying them to fill datacenters.
I’m terrified how many people think buying and selling stuff is moral, civic, and democratic duty. Econ 101 doesn’t even work in economics, why are we applying it to everything?
The sales of consumer GPUs make up a veeeery tiny percentage of nvidias revenue. Nvidia could stop selling consumer GPUs tomorrow and it wouldn’t even make a noticeable dent in their revenues.
And what other options do u really have? Any other company ain’t much better.
Nowadays, yes. Wasn’t this way 10-15 years ago. I’ve been against their practices enough to not buy their product these last 20 years, which feels like a very lonely hill to die on.
If you genuinely think they care about making a mere thousand bucks on a lumpy graphics card then you have been sleeping under a rock. Their costumers are Amazon, Microslop and Meta. Not you or me.
They would absolutely care if their audience flocked to AMD.
Graphics cards are still roughly ten percent of their revenue, that is not a lot, i’ll give you that, but they are a stable income.
When this AI demand inevitably dries up it would definitely still be in their interest to not have alienated the entire gaming community that made them in the first place and that Nvidia as of right now still dominate.
They won’t be handing that to AMD. If for no other reason than to not give them the financial means to chase them down in the AI space as well.
Now, yes. Not 10-15 years ago. Not 20 years ago when GPGPU was still a rather obscure concept. The Nvidia problem isn’t new regardless of how younglings and newly-enlightened seem to think so.
I am perfectly aware but that does not mean you should continue to buy from them, they still make money from them and they are evil as fuck also, when companies will inevitably start to buy less from Nvidia, it will be a problem for them
Okay so you’ve been sleeping under a rock so let me explain. You’re basically saying to not buy GPUs full stop because all those companies are terrible. But even if Nvidia sold 0 consumer GPUs for the rest of the year it wouldn’t affect them. Virtually all their stock value comes from the industry going full AI slop and no consumer choice we make with our tiny baby wallets can make them change course now. There is not enough money in the end consumer PC parts market for them to actually care because AI companies pay them so much more.
So paying the worst of the worse companies is okay for you? Hell nah, that’s bullshit
Also, the AI bubble will not survive forever, it will eventually end and if Nvidia loses it’s place in the consumer market, it will be half dead
Nvidia isn’t the worst of the worst so as long as intel exists. And what makes you think others aren’t just as focused on AI anyway? Seems like a gross oversight on your part. You should look into those other companies when you find the time.
Doesn’t really help that they got an almost monopoly on the market (with the only competitors being as shitty and involved in the AI circlejerk just as much).
They’re rather near a monopoly indeed. Imagination, Mali and a few other (minor) competitors still exist, but I guess it wouldn’t be fair to begin comparing gaming performance…
Yet people keeps buying their product. It’s almost as if voting with your wallet is all that’ll ever work.
Nvidia doesn’t care about consumer votes. They have plenty of AI dollars.
They have plenty of AI dollars for now.
Yet all people I hear have bought new computers in the last 15 years (very few exceptions) somehow has Nvidia cards.
I went AMD when I bought my new computer 3 years ago! (Not that they’re much better at all!)
Hoping cheap Chinese GPUs and RAM catch up soon!
If the Future of free and open computing ends up being Chinese, it’s gonna be hilarious.
The irony would be glorious, for sure
The country of the Great Firewall actually making free and open computing possible in the World at a time were most supposed Democracies are closing it all down claiming it’s “for the sake of the children” or “to protect us from Terrorism” or some other thin self-serving excuse for expanding civil society surveillance, would truly be the ultimate role-reversal.
Billionaires love when you think you can only vote with your wallet. They have many, many more votes than you. Nvidia doesn’t give two shits about your wallet compared to the ones paying them to fill datacenters.
I’m terrified how many people think buying and selling stuff is moral, civic, and democratic duty. Econ 101 doesn’t even work in economics, why are we applying it to everything?
Well, I did my part at least.
The sales of consumer GPUs make up a veeeery tiny percentage of nvidias revenue. Nvidia could stop selling consumer GPUs tomorrow and it wouldn’t even make a noticeable dent in their revenues. And what other options do u really have? Any other company ain’t much better.
Nowadays, yes. Wasn’t this way 10-15 years ago. I’ve been against their practices enough to not buy their product these last 20 years, which feels like a very lonely hill to die on.
We don’t have the money to back up our vote in this ‘election’. If you could even call it that. Capitalism isn’t a democratic process.
If you havr the money for a Nvdia GPU, i think you have the money for an AMD or Intel GPU…
If you genuinely think they care about making a mere thousand bucks on a lumpy graphics card then you have been sleeping under a rock. Their costumers are Amazon, Microslop and Meta. Not you or me.
They would absolutely care if their audience flocked to AMD.
Graphics cards are still roughly ten percent of their revenue, that is not a lot, i’ll give you that, but they are a stable income. When this AI demand inevitably dries up it would definitely still be in their interest to not have alienated the entire gaming community that made them in the first place and that Nvidia as of right now still dominate.
They won’t be handing that to AMD. If for no other reason than to not give them the financial means to chase them down in the AI space as well.
Now, yes. Not 10-15 years ago. Not 20 years ago when GPGPU was still a rather obscure concept. The Nvidia problem isn’t new regardless of how younglings and newly-enlightened seem to think so.
I am perfectly aware but that does not mean you should continue to buy from them, they still make money from them and they are evil as fuck also, when companies will inevitably start to buy less from Nvidia, it will be a problem for them
Okay so you’ve been sleeping under a rock so let me explain. You’re basically saying to not buy GPUs full stop because all those companies are terrible. But even if Nvidia sold 0 consumer GPUs for the rest of the year it wouldn’t affect them. Virtually all their stock value comes from the industry going full AI slop and no consumer choice we make with our tiny baby wallets can make them change course now. There is not enough money in the end consumer PC parts market for them to actually care because AI companies pay them so much more.
So paying the worst of the worse companies is okay for you? Hell nah, that’s bullshit
Also, the AI bubble will not survive forever, it will eventually end and if Nvidia loses it’s place in the consumer market, it will be half dead
Nvidia isn’t the worst of the worst so as long as intel exists. And what makes you think others aren’t just as focused on AI anyway? Seems like a gross oversight on your part. You should look into those other companies when you find the time.
Doesn’t really help that they got an almost monopoly on the market (with the only competitors being as shitty and involved in the AI circlejerk just as much).
They’re rather near a monopoly indeed. Imagination, Mali and a few other (minor) competitors still exist, but I guess it wouldn’t be fair to begin comparing gaming performance…