https://help.openai.com/en/articles/20001625-understanding-chatgpt-and-codex-usage-limits

Starting in December, Plus, Pro, and Business plans’ usage allowance will be shared across ChatGPT and Codex.

OpenAI confirms that:

  • ChatGPT and Codex will share a token-based allowance.
  • Instant chat will not consume this allowance.
  • More complex tasks and advanced models will consume more tokens.
  • Users can check their remaining allowance under Settings → Usage.
  • Users can purchase extra credits if they exhaust their allowance.

TL;DR - ChatGPT conversations that use advanced reasoning will compete with Codex for the same allowance. And it will be token based, rather then message / turn based. How many tokens? Fuck you, that’s how many. Want a coder and chat with a non brain dead LLM? Pick one.

So, if you’re thinking of re-upping your OpenCode Go or OpenRouter access (or you’re fortunate enough to have a rig that can run Qwen3.8 27B, Flash or the soon to be arriving Qwen 4’s), now’s the time to fuck off jippity.

Personally, I’m going to ditch it for OR credits and selective use of GLM, Kimi etc for code review. I don’t have the rig for a local GLM :(

Ride was always going to end but fortunately, open weight models are a thing.

Now if I could only run Qwen3.8-27b at not minutes-per-token…

  • Spite_By_Design_LLC@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Impossible to say. The token use difference between instant (nigh on useless,) and medium or high (what people anecdotally default to) could be significant.

    Eg: if we consider GLM 5.3, the difference in token use between reasoning none and reasoning high is about 3x

    https://artificialanalysis.ai/models/comparisons/glm-5-3-low-vs-glm-5-3

    But without access to actual token consumption figures, comparing the old and new usage allowances is difficult. Suffice it to say it’s unlikely to be in your favour.