• Toga77@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    The 10% of ethical AI use is drowned out by the other 90% of absolute liquid trash.

    That’s not touching the ethics of stealing everyone’s work for your AI then selling it back to them.

    That’s not touching the ethics of aggressive Data Center build outs that threaten people down to their actual health.

    That’s not touching the fascist supporting corporations that run and own the frontier AI models.

    That’s not touching the lack of those frontier AI company’s ethics. They operate like it’s the fuckng wild west.

    How can you possibly have a victim complex about this?

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      That’s not touching the ethics of stealing everyone’s work for your AI then selling it back to them.

      Yeah, it’s the “selling it back to them” part that gets me. I don’t want to outlaw scraping, because then the Wayback Machine couldn’t function. The Wayback Machine is free, though. It’s a public service. (One which is very much needed, IMO.) If, instead, the Internet Archive required that you pay for a subscription in order to use it, I think most people would be very upset, and rightfully so.

      You want to scrape the Web to feed your LLM? Cool! Make it an open-weight model.

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        6 days ago

        Right?! And people act like you’re an asshole when you bring this up.

        The nerve of some people, and the critical lack of awareness at the people picking all of our pockets.

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      That’s also not counting the ethics of barraging every site on the internet with a DDOS-level surge of webcrawlers scraping up data for AI training, to the point where every significant website out there has to implement anti-AI countermeasures in order to just stay operational.

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        7 days ago

        There’s so much bullshit with LLMs that needs to be cleaned up, regulated, and outright outlawed before I’m gonna sit here and praise these chucklefucks for opening a kind of Pandoras box with basically no thought.

    • PuddleOfKittens@sh.itjust.works
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      6 days ago

      I wonder what % of actions being ethical would be needed from Germany before WW2 would be considered unjustified.

      I’m willing to bet that 10% of the actions the Nazis did (note: out of all the actions the German govt did, including enforcing laws, running trains/buses, collecting taxes, building infrastructure etc) were ethical, and yet the Nazis were still obviously the bad guys in WW2.

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        „Hitler wasn’t all bad; he built the Autobahn” is one of the things some right wingers actually say.