It is called the toxicity list if you weren’t toxic you don’t go on it I guess. Honestly IDK what the big deal is the mods and admins here love their big ban lists why is this particular one getting so much attention?
Because it was secretly implemented on people who had no means of knowing that their entire fediverse feed was being personally curated by a single individual.
It’s fine to ring fence your own personal instance - that’s the point of federation; but to secretly censor a front end client? Ffs.
It is not the worst possible thing but shadow banning via a client is quite ridiculous, even more so when politically motivated. I won’t even get into how funny it is to have even less of a tolerance for political variety than lemmy.ml.
If you really want to circle jerk, that is what instances are for where what is tolerated and what is not is much more transparent.
It wasn’t politically motivated tho it was ‘toxic people’ that were shadow banned you know “be awesome or else” right? That is how vibe modding works it’s fundamental to the fediverse experience.
This was a small step forward if you only have a problem with this but not all the steps that lead us here then you are pushing an agenda using the perceived political motivations, or you are just dumb.
toxic=people who don’t agree with me isn’t a very mature approach though is it? In my opinion what is fundamental to the fediverse is being able to discuss with people you don’t completely agree with. It is the more centralized social media platforms that repeatedly push content you like so that you get addicted to your echo chambers. If you don’t like your ideas being challenged I would suggest such places.
I am not advocating for ban lists. It’s that I understand how the fediverse works it’s rife with censorship this is just oh_no_my_tribe these people don’t care about censorship when it is against their enemies.
It wasn’t politically motivated tho it was ‘toxic people’
I don’t know, you seem rather supportive for someone who doesn’t advocate it.
In any case there is a world of difference between ban lists of instances and ban lists of an app. The latter is something one step shy of a centralized ban list for fediverse. Also ban lists in instances at least try to revolve around a set of rules (whether or not they succeed is another issue and will change from instance to instance), where as this one is just single person’s “don’t like this person because he didn’t agree with me” list imposed without any information or whatsoever on end users. It also doesn’t help with the optics that it looks hand curated…
where as this one is just single person’s “don’t like this person because he didn’t agree with me” list imposed without any information or whatsoever on end users
It is evidently not politically motivated it is “toxicity”. Yes that is subjective to the individual but you don’t have a problem with “be awesome or else” being used to maintain your safe space do you? And yea shadow banning people is part of the game here you are benefitting from it right now.
The fact that one facist tribe wacked another facist tribe with their goofy censor stick is just comedy.
I love drama because it inevitably brings out people who want to be middle of the road about everything, and you can look back and see how that works in practice for every other opinion.
It’s telling on yourself in a fantastic sort of way.
You thought I was insulting you, no I’m just pointing out what it looks like to be held up by a cylinder of jello that represents what in other people is a backbone!
So if I conform I’ll grow a backbone? That doesn’t make sense.
It’s a real shame that you think someone standing up for their beliefs against the crowd is the one lacking conviction it’s very… fucking sad get help kid
It is called the toxicity list if you weren’t toxic you don’t go on it I guess. Honestly IDK what the big deal is the mods and admins here love their big ban lists why is this particular one getting so much attention?
Because it was secretly implemented on people who had no means of knowing that their entire fediverse feed was being personally curated by a single individual.
It’s fine to ring fence your own personal instance - that’s the point of federation; but to secretly censor a front end client? Ffs.
Yea that isn’t how big ban lists work.
Yea that is how shadow banning works.
Mhmmm
Just seems like someone went a slight bit further than everyone else and somehow this is the worst possible thing ever it just doesn’t make sense.
It is not the worst possible thing but shadow banning via a client is quite ridiculous, even more so when politically motivated. I won’t even get into how funny it is to have even less of a tolerance for political variety than lemmy.ml.
If you really want to circle jerk, that is what instances are for where what is tolerated and what is not is much more transparent.
It wasn’t politically motivated tho it was ‘toxic people’ that were shadow banned you know “be awesome or else” right? That is how vibe modding works it’s fundamental to the fediverse experience.
This was a small step forward if you only have a problem with this but not all the steps that lead us here then you are pushing an agenda using the perceived political motivations, or you are just dumb.
toxic=people who don’t agree with me isn’t a very mature approach though is it? In my opinion what is fundamental to the fediverse is being able to discuss with people you don’t completely agree with. It is the more centralized social media platforms that repeatedly push content you like so that you get addicted to your echo chambers. If you don’t like your ideas being challenged I would suggest such places.
I am not advocating for ban lists. It’s that I understand how the fediverse works it’s rife with censorship this is just oh_no_my_tribe these people don’t care about censorship when it is against their enemies.
I don’t know, you seem rather supportive for someone who doesn’t advocate it.
In any case there is a world of difference between ban lists of instances and ban lists of an app. The latter is something one step shy of a centralized ban list for fediverse. Also ban lists in instances at least try to revolve around a set of rules (whether or not they succeed is another issue and will change from instance to instance), where as this one is just single person’s “don’t like this person because he didn’t agree with me” list imposed without any information or whatsoever on end users. It also doesn’t help with the optics that it looks hand curated…
Yes, you don’t.
It is evidently not politically motivated it is “toxicity”. Yes that is subjective to the individual but you don’t have a problem with “be awesome or else” being used to maintain your safe space do you? And yea shadow banning people is part of the game here you are benefitting from it right now.
The fact that one facist tribe wacked another facist tribe with their goofy censor stick is just comedy.
I love drama because it inevitably brings out people who want to be middle of the road about everything, and you can look back and see how that works in practice for every other opinion.
It’s telling on yourself in a fantastic sort of way.
Yes I don’t see the world as black and white instead as grey I am not going to sidestep my morals for a political agenda. Thanks for the compliment.
It’s a real shame you thought this was an insult it’s very… telling.
You thought I was insulting you, no I’m just pointing out what it looks like to be held up by a cylinder of jello that represents what in other people is a backbone!
How insulting!
So if I conform I’ll grow a backbone? That doesn’t make sense.
It’s a real shame that you think someone standing up for their beliefs against the crowd is the one lacking conviction it’s very… fucking sad get help kid